The relation between B.J and the Afro woman Grace Walker

[Lupo89]

This video pretty much resembles their 'riendship'.
“You’re still white! You’re still responsible!” she yells at B.J. “This is your fault! You’re inherently racist! It’s in your blood! It’s in your DNA! God!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i6J2fcrKi8

Oy vey, kill all these evil Nazis B.J, you will be next in line when they are all gone.

[Urethra Scuba Diver]

BAHAHAHA this is hilarious!

[LastSurvivor]

Okay, I kinda don't like Grace because of her attitude towards BJ: I get that she had to grow up in an enviroment that is hostile to her and then had to deal with Nazi-controlled USA, so I understand her distrust towards whites, but Blazko is the #1 Nazi-hunter, to the point everyone knows him as such, and Grace still treats him like rubbish. Shouldn't she be fan-girling all over him?

[Jac]

Of all the things I have seen in the trailers and such the afro woman is one of my main concerns. She's such an obvious character and an obnoxious one as well - I'm hoping she dies early on in the game.

[The baa!]

He we go again with this ♥♥♥♥.

Mate they made the commie out to be a pos.

Dont think theyll make an exception for the black lady.

Also you are an embarrasment to the right.

And im right wing.

[Dyne]

I'm more confused that she acts like the stereotypical blaxploitation movie heroine while if the Nazis won the war, the black power and civil rights movements would have never happened. I guess it makes for a more powerful character but it makes my brain fuzzy.

[FamiJack]

Ok all, let's take a deep breath and not freak out over this. We've seen very little of her charachter and what we have seen looks like it takes place early in the game. Let's wait for the game to come out and see what they do with her.

[100% lob juice]

when you are so against perceived "sjw propaganda" in the media that you freak out over everything in the media, much like an sjw.

[Adam]

Imagine how dumb you would have to be to be upset by interracial relationships, black characters in videogames, and killing Nazis.

[Lupo89]

Originally posted by Adam:

Imagine how dumb you would have to be to be upset by interracial relationships, black characters in videogames, and killing Nazis.

Once You Go Black...You're a Single Mom. 92% Rate On Blacks Leaving Whites They Impregnate With 82% On Govt Assistance. Taxpayers Have to Pay For Our Genocide by Diversity.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2625893


No wonder people are upset, the black family on itself is struggling from family structure issues.
http://dailysignal.com/2017/09/20/black-family-struggling-not-slavery/

[Turtler]

Originally posted by Dyne:

I'm more confused that she acts like the stereotypical blaxploitation movie heroine ,

Meh, because much of the MG Wolfenstein games are massive homages to pulp fiction archtypes. Wolfenstein itself is based on the idea of pulp WWII/Nazisploitation fantasy sci fi stuff. The New Order went further with stuff like BJ hamming it up and chainsaw interrogation.

I'm not surprised they doubled down on the blanksploitation homages with someone who acts like a streotypical blaxsploitation movie heroine.

Originally posted by Dyne:

while if the Nazis won the war, the black power and civil rights movements would have never happened.

Not quite sure I'd go that far.

After all, a lot of the early movements were already in place. For instance, the two godfathers of those movements, Booker T Washington (non-BP Civil Rights) and WEB Dubois (Black Power) were already very much alive and active by the time WWII kicked off and had left a mark. Certainly there was nothing like the massive protests of the 1960's or 1970's, and there would have been no such ones feasible under the Nazis (there was this excellent Turtledove story about Gandhi trying to resist the Nazis but I forget the tile). But that certainly doesn't mean American Blacks wouldn't resist being sent to the camps or chambers.

Originally posted by Cyber Warrior:

Okay, I kinda don't like Grace because of her attitude towards BJ: I get that she had to grow up in an enviroment that is hostile to her and then had to deal with Nazi-controlled USA, so I understand her distrust towards whites, but Blazko is the #1 Nazi-hunter, to the point everyone knows him as such, and Grace still treats him like rubbish. Shouldn't she be fan-girling all over him?

To be fair, there are a couple things that come to mind.

A: BJ is nothing if not a secret agent whose track record was hugely classified even before the OSA collapsed with the main wartime allies, as well as a generally humble guy. The Nazis spread his legend more than he does. So it wasn't in charcter for him to go "DO U KNOW WHO IAM BIOTCH? IA M MOTHERFARQING BJ BLAZKOWICZ!"

And

B: North America's under Nazi occupation and thus presumably censorship, They can affford to scrub a lot of news out. On top of that BJ's spent pretty much the entire war in Europe, even after the war proper ended. So while he is a legend in the pre-surrender military and intel communities as well as the European Underground...... but that doesn't mean that he's gonna be as well known among the next generation of American resistance fighters to grow up since the Nazis won.

Considering how I remember reading this history article about how the people in the Baltics during WWI under German occupation (taht was nowhere near as barbaric or suffocating as the Nazis, but still pretty bad) flat out did not expect Germany to surrender until it did because censorship was so tight, I can totally imagine Grace not knowing him.

Originally posted by Heavy Meal ♥♥♥♥:

op tries to start racist crap against black ladies and the comments section becomes a deep discussion about the representation of African American women in video games.

God bless America.

And for once, we are in complete agreement.

[drh]

lol, I bet the racist concern-trolls here never got to J's big cutscene in the Wyatt timeline in TNO.

[LastSurvivor]

Originally posted by Turtler:

Originally posted by Cyber Warrior:

Okay, I kinda don't like Grace because of her attitude towards BJ: I get that she had to grow up in an enviroment that is hostile to her and then had to deal with Nazi-controlled USA, so I understand her distrust towards whites, but Blazko is the #1 Nazi-hunter, to the point everyone knows him as such, and Grace still treats him like rubbish. Shouldn't she be fan-girling all over him?

To be fair, there are a couple things that come to mind.

A: BJ is nothing if not a secret agent whose track record was hugely classified even before the OSA collapsed with the main wartime allies, as well as a generally humble guy. The Nazis spread his legend more than he does. So it wasn't in charcter for him to go "DO U KNOW WHO IAM BIOTCH? IA M MOTHERFARQING BJ BLAZKOWICZ!"

And

B: North America's under Nazi occupation and thus presumably censorship, They can affford to scrub a lot of news out. On top of that BJ's spent pretty much the entire war in Europe, even after the war proper ended. So while he is a legend in the pre-surrender military and intel communities as well as the European Underground...... but that doesn't mean that he's gonna be as well known among the next generation of American resistance fighters to grow up since the Nazis won.

Considering how I remember reading this history article about how the people in the Baltics during WWI under German occupation (taht was nowhere near as barbaric or suffocating as the Nazis, but still pretty bad) flat out did not expect Germany to surrender until it did because censorship was so tight, I can totally imagine Grace not knowing him.

I think at one point in Roswell level gameplay there is a newspaper salesman who recognizes BJ as "Terror Billy" and says that if that's him then he fully supports him. I believe that means that Nazies made everyone aware of BJ with their propaganda and called him Terror Billy. Probably Nazies deframed Blazko as evil terrorist, but everyone who opposes Nazies see their enemies as their friends. So if a random Nazi-hating guy on the street sees BJ as a hero then a leader of anti-Nazi resistance should too IMO.

[Audax]

Is that video a joke? I hope it is. People can't be that stupid for real, right?

[The baa!]

Originally posted by Tyel:

Is that video a joke? I hope it is. People can't be that stupid for real, right?

There is no joke.

[Unexpected]

Originally posted by Tyel:

Is that video a joke? I hope it is. People can't be that stupid for real, right?

i'm afraid when it comes to america in 2017, there are hardly any jokes, that group of people is 100% real