Forced political stuff damages the story

[Giga]

I had no idea about all the controversy that followed Wolfenstein 2 before it came out. Yet when I started playing, I soon noticed a trend. Some of the stuff:

- BJ is a white man, but since we can't have a straight white male being the hero, let's at least make him disabled
- BJ's dad is a cartoonish depiction of toxic patriarchy, while the mother is a loving angel
- BJ has a black girlfriend as a boy even though at the time that would've been unheard of
- the whiny, obese daughter is a good person to the core, while the thin career-driven mother who wants her to lose some weight is literally a Nazi psycho
- a black single mother has a long and terribly placed speech about how the figure of speech "balls of steel" is bad because it glorifies men
- BJ uses the term "white♥♥♥♥♥Nazis" as an insult, which made me cringe from how forced it was
- black people fight back, white people love the Nazis
- "the south belongs to the KKK" or something like that was said

I also discovered that women breastfeeding in public is considered a huge taboo in America and that a franchise that features a nazi moon base is apparently breaking new ground by adding such a scene, even though we already saw naked boobs in The New Order.

I haven't finished the game yet, but I have a feeling there's going to be more stuff like this.

To me, Wolfenstein franchise is about over the top heroes killing over the top Nazis in a variety of bloody ways, in a steampunk setting. It's like an 80s action movie. It's dumb fun, and I love it.

So why do you have to force the political stuff? Is it because the controversy will sell more copies? Do you think it makes the story better? It doesn't. It just breaks immersion and takes me out of the game.

Get your politics out of my nazi-shooting simulator!

[jebsmoker]

did you even play tno from start to end

[Wales Grey]

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Bingo.

[jebsmoker]

Originally posted by Ben "Big Commie" Franklin:

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:civvie:Enhance image.
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:civvie:Bingo.

idgt

[IL4 DD]

Gotta agree. If your goal is to replace facism with communism then you are a piece of ♥♥♥♥.

[Wales Grey]

Originally posted by pukekiller hell herk:

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[jebsmoker]

lol

[The Sid Man]

I love the game but have to agree, some of those things felt a little to forced FFS. Give me back my non PC Wolfenstein please!

[Wales Grey]

Originally posted by The Sid Man:

I love the game but have to agree, some of those things felt a little to forced FFS. Give me back my non PC Wolfenstein please!

I'm a little confused. How is Wolfenstein II: the New Colossus PC?

[Yes?]

Those who haven´t played it should just STFU unless they have relevant questions.
How pathetic do you have to be to spend your time whining in the forum about a game you don´t own - and a cluttering up the forum with a new thread about something there already are dozens of...?

"Get a life" is an excruciatingly worn out saying, but in these cases it actually fits.

[DeadSlash]

Originally posted by Vanner:

You are not forced to play Wolfenstein 2 and if you dont like political stuff then dont play or just get over it also about what you said "It just breaks immersion and takes me out of the game." All that you said is immersive

It's getting boring to say, but if it was political in the other direction, people would be in the streets.

[Wales Grey]

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

It's getting boring to say, but if it was political in the other direction, people would be in the streets.

Well, yes. I mean, here are the two sides:
[Wolf 2: TNC] "Nazis are bad and wrong, heroism means carrying on the fight while clinging to what you hold dear and never giving up."
[Your proposed "political in the other direction" Wolf 2: TNC] "Kill or enslave everyone who I consider subhuman based on a flawed and fundamentally incorrect view of human genetics/society/civilization."

I dunno about you, but I think there are several fundamentally problematic premises with the second formulation.

[coboev]

Dude you didnt know?

Europe is freed by gay disabled colored people ow no no its was the russians how stupid of me.

You are not aware that wenn you white you must be evil?

Or maybe just maybe theres been some game devs who had lots of fun brainstorming how they could make a huge discussion around the release they cant care if they piss of some rightwing idiots they dont have the money too buy this game on release, bttr too groom those who can actually afford the game on release the liberals made rich by the international jew ofcourse ;)

Wenn its this thick wenn game devs did everything too make sure people would create a discussion around the release wouldnt you atleast start to think maaaaybe juuuust maaaaybe that was just what they wanted free publicity.

My biggest thanks too bethesda and machinegames for giving me tons of laughs about them brainless US consumming units(yea we kinda see americans as ♥♥♥♥ machines we can sell badly produced useless crap =)

[-=BlueGlue=-]

Your whole arguement is flawed on the basis you have assumed BJ is himself classed as white (in the purest term of the Nazi's)
The Nazi's clearly refer to him as a half breed a.k.a sub human and would have been sent to the extermination camps like they did with his Jewish mother.

[Cyberdroid]

You voted for Trump didn't you?

[Bruno Pitarello]

Originally posted by -=BlueGlue=-:

Your whole arguement is flawed on the basis you have assumed BJ is himself classed as white (in the purest term of the Nazi's)
The Nazi's clearly refer to him as a half breed a.k.a sub human and would have been sent to the extermination camps like they did with his Jewish mother.

BJ is a white man with lots of muscle and a killing machine. He would fit perfectly with the Nazis if the Nazis weren't racists.