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Old age Apr 21, 2020 @ 10:37am
you may meet this kind of net code cheaters
there are now players with all kinds of net code chaets . i reported a guy 3 times and nothing was done. for example player has" lag switch" cheats where i get DDOSed or something like that. even disconnected . he can block my movement or weapon switch supressing input. they spam packets so hard you are like under water ! and he gets a lead. he has faster reload time and shot rate. also he can jitter his position making server hit detection system confused .postponing hits ot discarding them at all!
amatures in dev-team(if there any) cant detect them and nodobey processes reports at all. the game is dead and the anti cheat department is non existant. considering that QPL is online and even offline tournaments are kind of on internet servers. you can forget about taking this game serious as a competative esport.
i cant record my own expirience as it will hit the performance on my PC too hard
here are some videos for context
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9fwvXpCp3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erp6WZXmOcQ
Last edited by Old age; May 12, 2020 @ 9:44am
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tyl0413 Apr 21, 2020 @ 11:13am 
guy from the first video was already banned once a few months ago, hes a known hacker in quake champions/live/doom 2016/eternal for years and nobody ever does anything about him, i'm sure he was reported multiple times to bethesda and steam and nobody gives a damn even with himself uploading all the proof one would need to justify a ban..
Frankster Apr 21, 2020 @ 11:18am 
I thought I used high mouse settings (ie. 1100dpi@3.0) but you take the cake. Hard to see with all that jitter...
Old age Apr 21, 2020 @ 11:21am 
standart couple of bethesda bots protecting dumpster fire of a game. instaed of FIXING IT
while players move in bursts and keep hitting 2000 ms after i am covered. theN just turning lag switch on and i am disconnected .
Last edited by Old age; Apr 21, 2020 @ 11:22am
ToKa_浪人 🌸 Apr 21, 2020 @ 12:16pm 
Yeah, it is a shame with stuff like this. And you never can prove anything, because everybody will tell you its just lagging and bad netcode...

Lets just hope that QC will get some sort of working anticheat in future and please, do not only ban accounts, do some sort of hardware-ban this people. (other games can do it too!)
Last edited by ToKa_浪人 🌸; Apr 21, 2020 @ 12:17pm
♥samantha♥ Apr 21, 2020 @ 12:36pm 
iD software who are currently working on the game ( not Bethesda as Bethesda are just the publisher of the game) are not going to fix it, the game claims to have x,y,z anti cheat but you can clearly see in the first video that this person is cheating, even though the video is slightly speed up, iD software would rather you purchase items from the QC store, and release a mid week hot fix to fix the store than patch the game and stop cheater.

Most online games have some sort of cheaters, its why I have not played Diabotical since the second closed beta test, there was a hacker that would spawn kill everyone on the server at the same time, as soon as you respawned you kept automatically getting killed.

Software used for Cheating/Hacking are getting more advanced, that developer's can't keep up, with its technology.
tyl0413 Apr 21, 2020 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by ♥samantha♥:
iD software who are currently working on the game ( not Bethesda as Bethesda are just the publisher of the game) are not going to fix it, the game claims to have x,y,z anti cheat but you can clearly see in the first video that this person is cheating, even though the video is slightly speed up, iD software would rather you purchase items from the QC store, and release a mid week hot fix to fix the store than patch the game and stop cheater.

Most online games have some sort of cheaters, its why I have not played Diabotical since the second closed beta test, there was a hacker that would spawn kill everyone on the server at the same time, as soon as you respawned you kept automatically getting killed.

Software used for Cheating/Hacking are getting more advanced, that developer's can't keep up, with its technology.

There is some kind of anticheat in QC, and it does work just not very well and not all the time, he was already banned once a few months ago after someone made a post on the forums and everyone reported him. Also i'd rather have an less effective anticheat tool than Riot's rootkit on my system, devs should just use EasyAntiCheat, not too intrusive and works pretty well.
Frankster Apr 23, 2020 @ 1:13am 
Anticheats are something that's just got to be updated on an ongoing basis, if software in question is not in "active" development, it's specifically going to be extra vulnerable to these issues.

Bottom line. It's a constant, ongoing problem that's not easily addressed. Sorta in the same vein as networking security, (trojan) virus software, identity theft, hacking in general...

It's all about the countermeasures in place, tracking, patching, vulnerabilities. Also, weeding out the bad actors, one by one, if necessary. (assisted w/use of data collection).

The community could very likely be self policing if the correct protocol system, were put in place.
Last edited by Frankster; Apr 23, 2020 @ 1:28am
TigerBLUE Apr 23, 2020 @ 1:40am 
Cheating in games is just such a weird thing to do...I've never understood it.

If you were playing in a competition with big prize money then I could at least understand someone's motivation to cheat...I absolutely would not condone it and I would wish the harshest penalties possible on those that did...but I could understand their motivations.

But cheating in "regular games" is just so bizarre...I just don't understand how people can get any satisfaction out of winning a game that they know they cheated in...even if the opposition didn't realise you cheated...you would know...you would know that you are a total loser...what sort of life is that ? Playing for "hollow victories", nothing "real", no "substance" to your life...and always knowing that you're a total loser...doesn't sound like any fun to me...seems like a road to depression and self-loathing.
Old age Apr 23, 2020 @ 2:04am 
some of cheaters feel like they are hackers wich they are not. they just downloaded something.
some of them cant win at all so they cheat from frustration. but yeah very stupid and ♥♥♥♥ think to do
ciklotron Apr 23, 2020 @ 2:14am 
And it's rather probable that some folks simply like annoying others.
Frankster Apr 23, 2020 @ 2:32am 
Originally posted by ciklotron:
And it's rather probable that some folks simply like annoying others.

Bingo. Just go over to the foxnews forums (or any conservative website) and simply read down the thread lines. The internet has created an outlet for otherwise "unacceptable" social aggression. ie. Things people used to do to each other, but are now becoming stigmatized, outlawed, criminalized. Humans are in uncharted territory, where their entire reputations and/or llivelihoods are dependent upon these "social expectations", ie. public correctness.

Opportunities such as these (cheating, trolling) are evolving into outlets,(coping mechanisms) ie. pressure valves, to let out built up (suppressed) anger, aggression...

Maybe more functional than becoming a sociopath, but not exactly "healthy" coping mechanism either, but somewhere in the middle. Creepy, dishonest, but STILL legal... (I am rebel badass mentality) But in reality, more of a punk nobody.
Last edited by Frankster; Apr 23, 2020 @ 2:45am
tyl0413 Apr 23, 2020 @ 3:23am 
Originally posted by Frankster:
Anticheats are something that's just got to be updated on an ongoing basis, if software in question is not in "active" development, it's specifically going to be extra vulnerable to these issues.

Bottom line. It's a constant, ongoing problem that's not easily addressed. Sorta in the same vein as networking security, (trojan) virus software, identity theft, hacking in general...

It's all about the countermeasures in place, tracking, patching, vulnerabilities. Also, weeding out the bad actors, one by one, if necessary. (assisted w/use of data collection).

The community could very likely be self policing if the correct protocol system, were put in place.

Could be easily fixed if they used some 3rd party anticheat like EAC/Battleye so they don't have to maintain that themselves too
Old age Apr 23, 2020 @ 9:11am 
vary hard to fight net code cheaters. as its a program outside the game. and there actually will be some room for packets been too late so sadly it will be abused UNLESS they would stay vigelant against cheaters. and yes sadly the game has to be not free. for lesses chance of just creating the new accound. ubt game development is run by greedy folk who are not gamers and just look for a way to sell popular brand and spoend nothing. thats why servers are bad and will be. until managment changes
Last edited by Old age; May 12, 2020 @ 8:50am
TigerBLUE May 12, 2020 @ 9:11am 
Someone else posted that video in another thread Zayka, I think it was Frankster.

It certainly is an eye-opener :-(
...very sad if there are people out there "playing" in this fashion
...if they are then they are total losers both in game and in life
...and they know it :-(
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Date Posted: Apr 21, 2020 @ 10:37am
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