They make it so mouse and kb work?

[Tensu]

Or is this one of those have to use a x-box pad to play sort of ports?

[Mr.Mostache]

I tried playing using the keyboard. It seems to be a mess. The camera is controlled by the arrows and the movement is controlled by WASD. The mouse doesn't control the camera, so you will have a really hard time, especially if you are used to other games of steam.

[Scyris]

Jrpgs really don't transition well to keyboard controls, they never have. I highly suggest getting a wired x360 or xbone controller, it works with pretty much everything these days, however make sure to get an offical Mircosoft one. I got a 3rd party one and half the games don't set controls for it properly. Don't have this issue with the offical controller at all.

[Tensu]

Originally posted by Scyris:

Jrpgs really don't transition well to keyboard controls, they never have. I highly suggest getting a wired x360 or xbone controller, it works with pretty much everything these days, however make sure to get an offical Mircosoft one. I got a 3rd party one and half the games don't set controls for it properly. Don't have this issue with the offical controller at all.

I figured as much, I have a wired one was just wondering if I had to go dig it out from under the bed.

[Shifroval]

That's not entirely true.
It has full KB/M support + its fully remappable (even num keys and extra mouse buttons), you can even scroll up/down in the menus with the mouse wheel. You _can_ control the camera with a mouse, but it's currently bugged. I don't have the game yet, but according to some threads here and this review
https://www.pcinvasion.com/star-ocean-last-hope-technical-review-options
the camera moves until the mouse pointer (invisible) hits the edge of the screen.
It may have something to do with how the game handles the window managment (it loses focus I suppose), and according to Kaldaien, it's a total mess. Maybe when he fixes it, the camera will work as it should.

P.S That's the thread I was talking about
http://steamcommunity.com/app/609150/discussions/0/1488866813752600883/

[Dragon Crisis Core]

Originally posted by Shifroval:

That's not entirely true.
It has full KB/M support + its fully remappable (even num keys and extra mouse buttons), you can even scroll up/down in the menus with the mouse wheel. You _can_ control the camera with a mouse, but it's currently bugged. I don't have the game yet, but according to some threads here and this review
https://www.pcinvasion.com/star-ocean-last-hope-technical-review-options
the camera moves until the mouse pointer (invisible) hits the edge of the screen.
It may have something to do with how the game handles the window managment (it loses focus I suppose), and according to Kaldaien, it's a total mess. Maybe when he fixes it, the camera will work as it should.

P.S That's the thread I was talking about
http://steamcommunity.com/app/609150/discussions/0/1488866813752600883/

This is an issue in many games that allow live mouse control (ei dont have to alt tab in window mode just mouse off the window) Worse is when you accidently click out of the game while in the middle of battle. But yeah in games like that its better to go full screen.

[ositodefelpa]

Exactly what I needed to know, thank you. I shall move on.

[Shifroval]

Originally posted by k.mitch.gh:

This is an issue in many games that allow live mouse control (ei dont have to alt tab in window mode just mouse off the window) Worse is when you accidently click out of the game while in the middle of battle. But yeah in games like that its better to go full screen.

So you're saying that it only affects windowed mode? The game has many issues with window management and is not behaving correclty. Kaldaien seems to have fixed it in the latest Special K.
If only someone could test it out...

[Dragon Crisis Core]

Originally posted by Shifroval:

Originally posted by k.mitch.gh:

This is an issue in many games that allow live mouse control (ei dont have to alt tab in window mode just mouse off the window) Worse is when you accidently click out of the game while in the middle of battle. But yeah in games like that its better to go full screen.

So you're saying that it only affects windowed mode? The game has many issues with window management and is not behaving correclty. Kaldaien seems to have fixed it in the latest Special K.
If only someone could test it out...

Just saying i played several games with Mode issues, some games wont play full screen window, others wont play windowed, and some go wonky if your display is not the same as the games graphic setting.

[Shifroval]

Ok, it seems that can't be fixed with any third party tools, it's another example how Square released a broken port once again
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods/discussions/0/1319962514590954694/?ctp=420#c1489992713689582303
Or if we're lucky we can expect a patch.

[devSin]

But that doesn't really answer if it's a problem in fullscreen as well as windowed mode (I'm assuming that having it work in fullscreen would be an acceptable workaround, even if it's useless in windowed).

[Shifroval]

I don't know. I can't test it right now, I don't have enough HDD space to install the game anyway, so right now I'm just reading the forums looking for potential issues. But I guess no one here plays with KB/M, so I have to test it all myself.

[Dragon Crisis Core]

Originally posted by Shifroval:

I don't know. I can't test it right now, I don't have enough HDD space to install the game anyway, so right now I'm just reading the forums looking for potential issues. But I guess no one here plays with KB/M, so I have to test it all myself.

Im in the same boat as you but i play kbm all the time. Only reason i not bought the game yet is im busy with other games and hdd space atm.

[Shifroval]

Me too, I use kbm in 99% of games with exceptions like Castlevania LOS, where they screwed up the kb input (it has some sort of buffer) and you can't really execute QTE since they're made for controller (stick rotations, etc). Another example is Nier, it has broken mouse aiming in top-down and sidescroller sections and no dedicated dodge button. FFXIII-3 has no mouselook. All Tecmo Koei games have no mouse support. Also recent .hack remaster has no mouselook.
Back in 2013 the only solution was to use a controller, but right now we have GPDSCK. Not perfect, but it does its job.

Tomorrow I'll probably just uninstall some old games I haven't played for months and look what's going on with the mouse here.

[devSin]

EDIT: Against my better judgment, I checked it out.

Mouse-look is broken in the way that's been discussed, both in fullscreen and windowed modes.

As well, it's really sluggish, so even in the small range where it does work, it's hardly usable (the keyboard feels like it has some acceleration, so it gets faster the longer you hold it, but the mouse seems to be stuck at the slowest speed and barely nudges the camera before you reach the edge of the screen).

Originally posted by Shifroval:

Tomorrow I'll probably just uninstall some old games I haven't played for months and look what's going on with the mouse here.

Cheers. If you do find space for it, let us know how it goes.

Hopefully it ends up working out.