The High King

[DracoAngel]

Is there a way to guarantee that a certain candidate becomes the next High King? I know for the mission it says to give the crown to the king you wish to support, but no matter who I gave the crown to I kept getting Ullan as king; even though I wanted Duncas.

I completed all the side missions for each candidate and was Carants with at least Ullan and Duncas (I don't know about Derdre, can you become Carants with her?). So I'm unsure why I kept getting Ullan as the High King regardless of who I gave the crown to.

[Ogami]

That seems strange. I was "Carants" with all 3 of them and choose Duncan for the initial quest to start the election. I then retrieved the crown from the cave, Derdre showed up and tried to take it but i defeated her. I then gave it to Duncan, he went in with the other leaders and came out as High King.

Its possible that some other decisions also influence the election, i was always maximum "pro native" and was "Friendly" with them for like 25 game hours at that point.
"Ullan" is the leader who is most pro foreigners. Maybe you ended some quests with choosing the new settlers over the natives and that influences the election?
No clue otherwise.

[DracoAngel]

Hmm. I was Friendly with the Natives by this point. But I was Friendly with all the factions, except the Bridge Alliance (I was still Suspicious XD ). I tended to choose siding with the Natives on almost everything. Though perhaps choosing options that were to "keep the peace" would alter it? Like when given choices to kill or let certain groups go? I usually always let groups go regardless of their faction. Or perhaps being Friendly with everyone was a factor too?

Or I could have got I bug, I suppose? I guess I'll see what happens on this next play through.

[Ogami]

I also always did go for the peaceful solutions, sneaking in without killing anyone, letting people go or arresting them instead of killing them and so on.

The only clue maybe is the quest with Ullan and the other chief way earlier in the game.
Where you help him inviting another chief to peace talks and he then tried to murder that chief in an ambush.
There was a mission with a 5 ingame hour timer where you had to rescue the other chief.
That exposed Ullan to the other clans as a traitor and he lost a lot of respect with them.
Even got mentioned in my ending credits.
Did you do that quest in time?

[DracoAngel]

Yes, I saved the other chief, even though he had to leave his clan because of his defeat. And then I called Ullan out on being a traitor. I don't recall exactly was said about Ullan in the ending credits, other than he established a lot of trade with us and brought prosperity to his clan at the expense of the others.

[Focus_Arc]

Hello,

Whoever you give the crown to should become high king.

Could you try loading a previous save to reproduce the issue?

Could you send us your save file? You should find it here C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\GreedFall using your File Explorer. We recommend making a manual save (with this type of name: save_xx-xx-2019_09-53-26.fsav) and sending it instead of sending an autosave file.

You can send the files to [e-mail].

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best Regards.

[DracoAngel]

Unfortunately I already finished the game and don't have a save point, and have started a new game already. I believe I'm getting close to this point again, and will see if the same issue happens. If it does I'll be sure to send the file.

Thank you.

[DracoAngel]

It seems that the problem I was having was indeed a bug in the previous play through. This time around I had no problems at all getting the High King of my choice.

Thank you all for the attempts to help! ♥

[White Knight]

That's a pretty weak "report".

You get the crown, give it to the person you choose, and they become the High King...extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. Don't got that? Don't cry when when the world says "Pics or it didn't happen".

Also, I don't think you become "Carants" with individuals...once you are accepted, that's it. It's the culture that accepts your new status...or maybe I wasn't paying enough attention? That's always a possibility?

It's like declaring yourself as a "Hilery Clanton" supporter...all or nuthin'. Stupid people love their dichotomies...Jesus/Satan, Ying/Yang, Donkeys/Elephants, etc. If my brother says your "Carants", then yer Carants.

[DracoAngel]

Originally posted by Parrhesiastes:

That's a pretty weak "report".

You get the crown, give it to the person you choose, and they become the High King...extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. Don't got that? Don't cry when when the world says "Pics or it didn't happen".

Uh... 1. I wasn't initially 'reporting' anything. My first time through this game and I didn't know if I had been doing something wrong that I was getting Ullan no matter who I chose. Basically asking if there were other stipulations to who becomes King other than giving the crown to your choice. And thanks to Ogami and Focus_Victor, they told me giving the crown to the King of my choice was all that mattered.
After playing through a new game I now know that it had been a bug, since the 2nd run through I had no issues and made the same choices - I deliberately did this to see if it happened again. So if it did happen again I could send the save to the Devs. I would have sent the original, but by the time Focus_Victor requested it I had already finished the game with no save point before the New King choice.

And when was I crying??

Originally posted by Parrhesiastes:

Also, I don't think you become "Carants" with individuals...once you are accepted, that's it. It's the culture that accepts your new status...or maybe I wasn't paying enough attention? That's always a possibility?

No, you become Carants of the 3 individual tribes. You can be 'Friendly' with the Natives as a whole but can still be enemies (untrustworthy?) with individual tribes. You have to earn the trust, thus becoming Carants, with the 3 tribes. If you did all the questlines for the 3 villages at the very end they dub you Carants of their village. Meaning you weren't before that moment, regardless of standing with other villages or the Native's as a whole.

Originally posted by Parrhesiastes:

It's like declaring yourself as a "Hilery Clanton" supporter...all or nuthin'. Stupid people love their dichotomies...Jesus/Satan, Ying/Yang, Donkeys/Elephants, etc. If my brother says your "Carants", then yer Carants.

And I don't even know what to make of all this gibberish

[rebel-o-conner]

i regret there's not a 4th neutral choice: to keep the crown and let them electing their high king without any ingerence.

[Mr. Harari]

Originally posted by rebel-o-conner:

i regret there's not a 4th neutral choice: to keep the crown and let them electing their high king without any ingerence.

That would be so great the whole time I was thinking Ill just keep it and let them choose and was so disappointed when I learnt I couldn't

[Ogami]

The problem is, letting them choose does not fit the main story at that point.
You NEED to get a high king that supports you and let you into the Sanctuary, that is the whole point.
De Sardet cant risk getting a high king elected that is opposed to that.

[rebel-o-conner]

Originally posted by Ogami:

The problem is, letting them choose does not fit the main story at that point.
You NEED to get a high king that supports you and let you into the Sanctuary, that is the whole point.
De Sardet cant risk getting a high king elected that is opposed to that.

de sardet made a lot of things that influence the natives, her friendship rank could allow the game to choose a high king. Siora said herself de sardet shouldn't manipulate people. on the contrary, for a peace player like i am, it would be the best choice. let the native to decide by themselves.

[Rob'sEvilTwin]

Originally posted by rebel-o-conner:

i regret there's not a 4th neutral choice: to keep the crown and let them electing their high king without any ingerence.

I regret there was no option to keep the crown - It's good to be the King! :D

[LX357]

Originally posted by Ogami:

The problem is, letting them choose does not fit the main story at that point.
You NEED to get a high king that supports you and let you into the Sanctuary, that is the whole point.
De Sardet cant risk getting a high king elected that is opposed to that.

Sure - but I was Carants with all three tribes, and all three kings had pledged to help me enter the sanctuary. Once I have that, it doesn't matter who is elected or how, and as someone who has been respecting the natives self determination I feel like that's what I should do - let the natives determine for themselves.

But then, I suppose taking the crown and closing that option to Derdre would be manipulating the outcome in the first place.