Concerning the quest: Treason (spoilers)

[mainer]

So I just completed the quest Treason, and I was wondering if there was a way to kill the 3 lieutenants as well as the commander without having one of those options fail?

I did the quest twice. First time, first time getting one lieutenant and the commander, but failed the lieutenants option because I couldn't get them after the commander.

The 2nd time, I got the lieutenants, but the commander got away on a ship. I kept that save, thinking that I must be able to have a quest to find him later.

So, is there a way to get them all, or is this a quest design? Also, in the codex part of my journal, it says that I killed the commander, even though he got away. That has to be wrong, and must be a bug related to my first try on this quest.

PS: I loved this quest, it just hit out of the blue and became very hectic. Completely unexpected (for me anyways).

[sga100]

Have you left the barracks after he gets away? I have got his lieutenants and him in the same playthrough so it's possible.

[ianghorn]

Got them all.
Killed the 3 lieutenants first then got him in the streets as he was making his escape.
There may be a condition you have to meet to do this, not sure. I think you find a letter about Torsten's escape plan in his office so maybe thats it.

[elbentzo]

I also got all the objectives. I'm not sure what I did right so I'll just explain exactly what I did step by step:

1. Went to the tavern, bribed the dude in order to get downstairs.

2. Met one of the lieutenants with a group of coin guard. Passed a charisma or intuition test (don't remember which), so I only had to fight the lieutenant. Went on to the next room (brothel) -- same thing. Passed some test (or maybe it was Kurt who spoke for me?), only had to fight the bad guy.

3. First I tried to go on through the brothel into the barracks, but once I realized that means I have to fight coin guard and lose reputation, I reloaded to right after I killed the second lieutenant (in the brothel). Went outside the same way I got in, went to the side of the tavern (eastern wall). Found a wooden scaffold, climbed up it and snuck directly into the second floor of the barracks.

4. Met a group of young recruits who just let me pass by.

5. Found the third lieutenant in one of the rooms. Had no option for dialogue so I had to fight him AND his coin guard. Caused me to lose 1 reputation with them. It's no big deal because if you do their questline you get enough rep to still be friendly even if you piss them off, but I still would have liked to find a way to avoid it. If anyone knows a method, please post it.

6. Went on to the commander's office (one room next to where I found the 3rd lieutenant). Found a letter saying he's making a run for it. Went downstairs, exited through the main door of the barracks, a cutscene started as soon as I stepped out of the door.

7. The cutscene showed the commander trying to make a run for it and me catching him in the last minute. Fight starts. Win fight, get all objectives.

P.S.
Kurt was with me all along, maybe that changes something.

[mainer]

Yeah, I think I may have done something slightly out of the " perceived order" that the quest should be solved. I took Kurt's suggestion and entered the barracks via the scaffolding to the upper floor. Killed the first lieutenant, then found the commanders note in his office. From that point save, I had 2 runs: the first was to kill the commander outside the barracks, at which point the lieutenants part failed. The second was to go back out the way I came in, enter the tavern, bribe the guard, then kill the 2 lieutenants in the basement. At which point, I exited the tavern and had a quest marker down by the docks. I sprinted to get there, but the commander had already left on a Naut ship. That's the save I kept (hoping that there would/will be an encounter with the commander later.

So it sounds like you just have to take the direct approach and go into the tavern first to get them all. Too bad, I thought I was being sneaky by going in via the scaffolding to the upper floor first. I'll know better next time.