I get that it's a straight furry game.

[Corvus Overworkwing]

I was just wondering, since it's a Furry game, if there would maybe be some easter eggs or anything that would have any gay shenanigans? There's quite a lot of gay and bisexual people in the furry fandom. Mayhaps some gay side stuff would help incentivize gay players?

The game looks very well done by the way.

[Bune Duggy]

I personally feel like including things for better marketability towards specific groups can be a bit scummy and exploitative. I'm sure you probably know what I mean, it being pride month and corporations currently chasing those gay-bux whether their actions support the community or not. Not to be confused with inclusion, there's a difference there.

To answer your question specifically: There are LGBTQ+ characters but there isn't any outright sexual content surrounding gay stuff. The content is romantically themed so I'd recommend it to people who like romance, whatever they prefer. But as far as sex appeal goes, it's straight.

If there were gay sexual stuff, it probably wouldn't be appealing since I have no gay experiences to go off. So you're not missing too much.

[Corvus Overworkwing]

Ahh well, thank you kindly for the clear and concise response. I'll likely still play the game to see how well done it is. Have a wonderful day!

[Bune Duggy]

I appreciate that!

[Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic)]

Originally posted by Bune Duggy:

I personally feel like including things for better marketability towards specific groups can be a bit scummy and exploitative. I'm sure you probably know what I mean, it being pride month and corporations currently chasing those gay-bux whether their actions support the community or not. Not to be confused with inclusion, there's a difference there.

To answer your question specifically: There are LGBTQ+ characters but there isn't any outright sexual content surrounding gay stuff. The content is romantically themed so I'd recommend it to people who like romance, whatever they prefer. But as far as sex appeal goes, it's straight.

If there were gay sexual stuff, it probably wouldn't be appealing since I have no gay experiences to go off. So you're not missing too much.

What is this? Sensible logic and sound ethical decisions to not pander to an audience for the sake of it? Am I dreaming?

[Bune Duggy]

Originally posted by Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic):

What is this? Sensible logic and sound ethical decisions to not pander to an audience for the sake of it? Am I dreaming? :cozytf2mug:

Dunno about all that, it's just that I don't want to "throw a bone" to a community that pretty much lives on bones. It's insulting.

Edit: Could have worded that better, unintentional double entendre. What I mean is if I were to do something like that it'd get as much thought as everything else, not an "easter egg" or what-have-you.

[SirMalo]

Aww, too bad. A good mix between M/F and M/M would have been nice but i'm happy with M/F. Could be worse imo...futa or other "exotic" things would kill the game for me.^^

[Corvus Overworkwing]

Yeeaah, entirely agree with Malo
Not that I have anything against futa stuff, it's just more that they're so uncommon that they almost always feel out of place.

[Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic)]

Originally posted by Bune Duggy:

Originally posted by Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic):

What is this? Sensible logic and sound ethical decisions to not pander to an audience for the sake of it? Am I dreaming?

Dunno about all that, it's just that I don't want to "throw a bone" to a community that pretty much lives on bones. It's insulting.

Edit: Could have worded that better, unintentional double entendre. What I mean is if I were to do something like that it'd get as much thought as everything else, not an "easter egg" or what-have-you.

The sarcasm was a little bit strong, but my point was that I'm glad someone chose not to make something for an audience he or she doesn't have any interest or know-how to do it right. It will just make the game/story better by focusing on your strengths.

[SirMalo]

Originally posted by Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic):

The sarcasm was a little bit strong, but my point was that I'm glad someone chose not to make something for an audience he or she doesn't have any interest or know-how to do it right. It will just make the game/story better by focusing on your strengths.

Yeah i can support that. If the dev has no experiences with certain things like M/M sex (either by being gay or doing some serious study about that, lol) it's better to not touch it just for the sake of pleasing everyone. It would only show that it's more important to make cash than providing a solid fun package.

[Princess Lizzyroo]

Originally posted by SirMalo:

Aww, too bad. A good mix between M/F and M/M would have been nice but i'm happy with M/F. Could be worse imo...futa or other "exotic" things would kill the game for me.^^

Well when it comes to Furries. Its more correct to call them Herms. but lot of people will still use the Futa saying. But Herms is the best wording when it comes to Furs. Futa is more coined towards Anime/Hentai being thats where it came from.

[Princess Lizzyroo]

Originally posted by Farron:

Yeeaah, entirely agree with Malo
Not that I have anything against futa stuff, it's just more that they're so uncommon that they almost always feel out of place.

Futa(Anime/Hentai wording) otherwise known as Herms(for Us Furs wording) They are not that Uncommon. they are actually pretty Common. (Unless talking about in games. then yes not many in ways of Futa again Anime/Hentai wordings. Herms games out there)

[Corvus Overworkwing]

Futa, or more accurately hermaphroditic (Which is correct by the way, my apologies) peoples are actually extremely uncommon by normal Hooman standards, which is how we were all viewing it. Homosexuals are less common than their heterosexual counterparts, and hermaphroditic individuals are also less common than males and females - at least again, by Hooman standards.

You're right that by furry standards, they're really quite common, but for games like these, it's entirely dependant on the universe that's created. There's a very specific type of narrative to this game, hence only straight romantic options.

Hermaphroditic characters showing up in a game like Amorous makes sense, and nobody is all too surprised by it, and while it'd be sort of a neat thing to see here, clearly the narrative of this game isn't all to similar to Amorous

[Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic)]

Originally posted by Redonia:

Its too bad the furry community become loaded with gay / futa and similar stuff. When I became part of it. (1996) It was all straight artist. Vanilla themes, mostly girl/girl or solo girl. With some guy/girl or several males on girl/girls.

( Mind you refering to the erotic side of the fandom, which of course is the biggest side. Just for whatever reason. People always get super defensive about saying no it isn't. Yeah, no it is. And always has been. The G-Rated content, the fursuiters and die-hards who never do anything beyond PG-13 excluded. But are not the vast majority. )

Anyway...

I watched so many artist, including myself stop posting art because it became about:

Appealing to a small minority that started to flood the fandom. ( LGBTQ+ people and the like ) ... And no I'm not 'hating' on you for who you are. So don't be getting defensive. Just real insight.

Or

Being a popular artist. ( Because they draw dursona from furry #306, who has money to burn and hundreds of drawings of that 'fursona' being seen drawn by every popular artist, at the time when it was a thing. I believe was back in 2006 - 2009. When one dumb 'fursona' a red fox with angel wings had hundreds of drawings of his 'fursona' boinking everyone elses 'fursona.' Sort of like $1500 bucks for a pre-made drawing by MDF, for an YCH as it is now. Kind of like that. )

Then the paywalls began much later thanks to the scummy practice that is patreon. Now isolating the community between "popular artist" who nuked their galleries and put everything behind paywalls. Or like me. They got angry at this and just stopped posting altogether, as there is only so many people willing to throw money at so many people at once.

I personally couldn't ask my fans to pay me a monthly fee to see drawings I always shared freely, merely asking if you want me to do a commission, feel free. That became a stigma like you aren't worth it if you aren't a monthly transaction fee artist.

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I don't know now. Ramble, but back to the point.

As far as I am aware, I do not know this creator of this, his DVD or can't even recall his previously know signature name, when he did flash animations and was still an up-n-comer. When he was overshadowed by better artist back then. Like I was.

But.

He, ( Again as far as I can tell. ) - Was a straight only artist. ( Again, not personally attacking or saying/speaking for him. ) It's what I saw.

So the odds of him making "gay" / "futa" / "hyper" / "insert specific thing here" ...

Yeah.... Probably not gonna happen.

Seems he answered you well enough and made a good enough point.

But. Again.

I feel I needed to point out, yet again. That the furry community, IS OPEN. As there's no gate keepers.

It WAS a mostly straight, art revolving community. That focused on "sexy" to "tame" focusing more on famous disney / cartoon characters. That shifted into original characters ( For the better ) ... And somewhere around 2000 or 2001. I personally noticed several "Gay only" artist start to appear.

There was nothing to stop. Because there's nothing wrong with it. But. It wasn't part of what the community first was.

Sort of like "My Little Pony" fans.

THEY are not furries, and they made themselves their own community. Some MLP fans flip out being called furries, others do not. Only difference I saw with regards to them was many furries got angry at them for flooding art boards, websites with their narrow interest. And some artist abused it for $$$. Some artist became very hateful towards them and most didn't care.

That's basically as far as I can tell what the furry community is now.

$$$

Popularity contest

Paywalls

& even...

Pushing political nonsense onto everyone else.

.........

Certainly, never saw all this happening back then.

Its a damn shame.

(( Thanks for releasing the game before the 4th. I love it! ))

There's a reason why gay art has flourished in the fandom, and that's because the male demographic will pay for art and other stuff. (Put two men together and those odds go up more.) It's also why some of the more popular female characters are owned by guys.

I don't think Patreon has as much influence as biology and market dynamics. Just throwing that idea out there.

[Trentscousin]

I for one am happy with the way the game is, that was why I KS'd it.