this game is really hard

[bacon soda]

i know this game is old but its really hard and kinda boring. It sometimes get confusing on where to go mainly because each map looks pretty much the same and what i mean by that is most of the time it would feel like i've already been through this door because it looks exactly the same as the way i just came from. Also checkpoint comes once or twice per map. This game force me to use cheats just to keep me playing 4/10

[Mongo]

Publicado originalmente por Visukinttu:

I personally hate games that don't tell you what to do or where to go (except those open world games where you can do whatever you want to).

I realize this is pretty stupid, but I'm actually stuck in the very first level because I have no idea what I'm supposed to do after I blew up the door with the turret and go down with the lift. All the doors are "red" after I killed everyone (except the officer other side of the glass), and every time I reload the bit and open the door after the lift stops, all the enemies are already shooting at me so I can't even try to sneak myself anywhere if that's what I'm supposed to do. If I go down to the maintenance tunnel where the "electric machine" is, I can't find a way to get back up. If I blow it up it'll kill me instantly. Maybe I messed things up and would need to restart the level, but I just don't care enough.

If I played this game 20 years ago I'd probably loved it even now, but at this age I just can't be bothered.

Yeah if you are already getting fed up with how obscure some of the puzzles it only gets worse further on haha. For reference when you walk down the tunnel towards the machine there is a very small door on the side of the tunnel you are supposed to duck into once you shoot the machine and it will shield you from the blast.

[Dr.Mario'sTeabaggin Squirrel Rx]

the problem with these old star wars games is that i think they were developed by western studios with a small budget most of the time so the game play mechanics can be kind of rushed or not fully developed. this is my first playthrough of the game and I'm a seasoned player and i'm having difficulty with various mechanics of the game too. one of the issues is that a lot of times the clues are easy to miss and it is really frustrating trying to figure out where to go

[Amogus]

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Mario'sTeabaggin Squirrel Rx:

the problem with these old star wars games is that i think they were developed by western studios with a small budget most of the time so the game play mechanics can be kind of rushed or not fully developed. this is my first playthrough of the game and I'm a seasoned player and i'm having difficulty with various mechanics of the game too. one of the issues is that a lot of times the clues are easy to miss and it is really frustrating trying to figure out where to go

I guess that's one of the nice, but also frustrating part of old games

On the one hand, figuring something out with little to no direction can feel extremely satisfying. On the other hand, it can be extremely frustrating when you are beyond lost and have absolutely no idea how to go about things. That's not to say that a lot of the solutions to certain parts of levels aren't super fun, but that also doesn't mean that it can't be a major head scratcher.

Personally, the level I had the hardest time with was the one directly after Nar Shaddaa in the garbage plant. For some reason, that map is a complete and utter maze to me that I had to spend a considerable amount of time figuring out.

[Dr.Mario'sTeabaggin Squirrel Rx]

I'm about halfway through the game where I just met up with Luke on that base. For the people new to the game, the game definitely got better when I got to Bespin however the game still suffers from clunky combat. I am getting better at the lightsaber duels though. I've decided the game is good enough to finish the playthrough but I just wished they would've ironed out some of the issues with the game before the release. I also saw on youtube that jedi academy was the better game to start playing if you are new to the series cuz it's apparently easier from a newbie perspective.

[Amogus]

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Mario'sTeabaggin Squirrel Rx:

I'm about halfway through the game where I just met up with Luke on that base. For the people new to the game, the game definitely got better when I got to Bespin however the game still suffers from clunky combat. I am getting better at the lightsaber duels though. I've decided the game is good enough to finish the playthrough but I just wished they would've ironed out some of the issues with the game before the release. I also saw on youtube that jedi academy was the better game to start playing if you are new to the series cuz it's apparently easier from a newbie perspective.

1. You've gotta cut them some slack for how decent a game made in 2002 was. For how dynamic the gameplay way, it's more than fair to ignore some shortcomings due to how old of a game it is.

2. Lightsaber duels definitely feel very strange since there will be times where your lightsaber will go right through someone and they will take no damage and vice versa. Combat can also feel quite tedious at times, since it feels like you can never land a hit on them because they always block it perfectly, although I have found switching styles heavily negates that problem. It's also amplified by the fact that strong style is OP and practically turns any battle into a 1-swing insta win, since I beat Desann in 2 strong style swings. Turning on some level of dismemberment can definitely help, although it also makes the game significantly harder as not only can you instantly kill them, but they can instantly kill you with a dismemberment.

3. Jedi Academy was easier in the sense that they had made where you were supposed to go a lot easier to discern, as well as being able to choose your secondary force powers as you see fit. This is also amplified by having a lot of really useful force powers that Jedi Knight didn't have, such as protection/absorption, rage, and a lot of other abilities that gave you a massive edge in fights. The combat system was basically the same, but the things mentioned above had a significant impact on what made the game a lot more "user friendly".

[`Hi~Fi.`*MMi*]

"It's offline." - Kyle Katarn

[Gasivodo]

Publicado originalmente por `Hi~Fi.`*MMi*:

"It's offline." - Kyle Katarn

BUT! That's a BAD thing now 2020+

[Gasivodo]

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Mario'sTeabaggin Squirrel Rx:

the problem with these old star wars games is that i think they were developed by western studios with a small budget most of the time so the game play mechanics can be kind of rushed or not fully developed. this is my first playthrough of the game and I'm a seasoned player and i'm having difficulty with various mechanics of the game too. one of the issues is that a lot of times the clues are easy to miss and it is really frustrating trying to figure out where to go

Naah, you're just younger than WE that played - back then ;-)

[AD2001]

The game is a little confusing. And i'm not young either. I grew up with Doom and Mario brothers.

[dopugsnotdrugs]

if the ways of the jedi were easy there would be millions of us instead of dozens - puberty luke skywalker

wait, why would that be a bad thing to have way more jedi? - jeditrainer guy in the back of the cutscene

bahahaha.. git good. this game is the greatest of all time, god tier :) the fact you can spawn anything you want and they have 50 npc types means you can have infinite combos of battles to play all day every day.

[Lord Farquaad]

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Mario'sTeabaggin Squirrel Rx:

I'm about halfway through the game where I just met up with Luke on that base. For the people new to the game, the game definitely got better when I got to Bespin however the game still suffers from clunky combat. I am getting better at the lightsaber duels though. I've decided the game is good enough to finish the playthrough but I just wished they would've ironed out some of the issues with the game before the release. I also saw on youtube that jedi academy was the better game to start playing if you are new to the series cuz it's apparently easier from a newbie perspective.

, yeah Academy is better for new players and more ironed out. Outcast feels to me more like a puzzle game to me (bit more original than obscure switches but its basically the same thing, which some older games like eg Redneck Rampage also had). While Academy has some puzzle elements but they are never too annoying I think, and you start with a Lightsaber which I prefer as well. I can also recommend Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2 after finishing Academy, I remember it being somewhere in the middle of Outcast and Academy with puzzling elements, although the maps are larger.

[jo569]

skill issue

[JACKOFALLTRADES]

While I am not someone that grew up with the game nor someone who hates the game for its age, I can see both sides of the argument. I personally love Jedi Outcast and Academy for their fluid light saber combat that allows you to control the style and direction of your blade. I also love the use of the force, combining different abilities to find new ways to take on scenarios. These gameplay mechanics, along with the engaging stories make these games in my top 5 Star Wars games. However, I do think they could use a remaster or remake, overhaul the visuals, tighten up the gunplay, add a map for each level, and make the puzzles a little more easy for new comers.

[Prisoner849]

As it should be. Try playing on Jedi Master with Full DIsmemberment the bosses become 10 times harder than they normally are because they can dismember you just as you can dismember them. Reborn Bosses with the Dark Red Hood and Shadowtroopers with Dismemberment on Jedi Master difficulty are equally hard. You really have to hone your speed force power if you want to survive.

Try playing on Jedi Master difficulty with Full Dismemberment without taking any Damage. Is it that even possible?

[nuclearsnake]

I'm getting Halo 2 jackal snipers vibes from these damn snipers in the streets level—way harder game than Jedi Academy.