New Show Was Fun (Season 2 Confirmed)

[mdesaleah]

A bit shaky at points (Episode 1 has a lot of exposition, but at least it’s out of the way quickly), and the ending leaves a lot of characters arcs put on hold.

As an alternate canon that’s quickly shown to not take place in the game’s version of things, it generally works well at making you guess where it’s going. A lot of things are familiar, but a lot of it is twisted to throw you off.

Dante is perfect. No fault there. Does take a bit to get used to Nero’s voice coming out of Dante though. A mix of 3 Dante in inexperience (a bit more even), but less immature than early game 3.

Lady is very different but also very similar? It’s weird if you are still expecting 1:1 at this point that’s not it but it’s also not a total deviation. Think of it like taking 3 Lady before she joins Dante and toning that side of her up to extremes (that still ends up making sense with her edited background but it takes a while for it to be shown). It’s the most she’s ever done since 3 released, but she’s also the character who’s left hanging the most since her development is not over.

Rabbit is from an obscure manga. Works well for a first season main villain.

Sparda is the interesting part. But one that is also left open for later. Finally going into what happened to him would be an interesting angle to show eventually. The games really just completely ignore that mystery. Is he dead? Is he just missing somewhere? The games never bothered since the focus isn’t on that, but the show can go in a very unique direction.

Biggest issue I think is the 3D CG used in the middle of the season for one episode mainly. It’s messy if you’re good at noticing the difference, but I get that the animators don’t want to suffer when animating every little thing. A poor 3DCGI moments are made up for when the budget does clearly show for most of the rest. I know some people just can’t tell the difference or don’t mind.

Some of the plot can get messy if you take things literally and don’t follow what the show itself is saying. But the “To Be Continued…” parts of the ending leaves it open to be expanded on

[ghoul]

Not reading all that but the show should've been better. We basically got a DmC reboot anime with all the edgelord dialogue and trash writing.

[mdesaleah]

More spoiler stuff I'd change, or that is interesting:

"Not all demons are bad, and not all humans are good" is something the series always did. But I think they should have pushed it a bit farther. The "good" demons mostly look too friendly. So if they wanted to make that point better, have some of the uglier designs also be shown to be potentially friendly. They kind of do that at the very end when Vergil shows up, but it could have been done much earlier.

. Mundus "brainwashing" Vergil by raising him instead of through mind control is a very very interesting angle to take a Dante VS Vergil conflict. I don't even think thats the exact angle they are taking it in, but twisting the typical Dante VS Vergil into something a bit different does make it interesting to guess where it could go

. A lot of DMC2 love at the very end. Lucia shows up as a cameo early, but my guess is that she will return as a more important character. DMC2 but interesting has potential.

[aka]

Fun No
Ridiculous Yes

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by ghoul:

Not reading all that but the show should've been better. We basically got a DmC reboot anime with all the edgelord dialogue and trash writing.

Disagree there.

DMC Reboot had a version of Dante that doesnt even act like Dante. It could have worked, but he's just annoying and edgy.

New Anime is its own thing (not to the level of the reboot, but still a bit different), but Dante is on point. And the humor is still very there. Even the ending, while serious, was so blunt and intentionally in your face on the level of "Maybe a Devil May Cry 3 Dante's Awakening Special Edition when he loses a loved one" levels of being blunt.

The new elements are preference, but I think they work generally well. Mostly as a look into "how would the world (mostly the military) react to DMC events", since the games kind of ignore that. Not 1:1 dmc events, but you get that.

[ghoul]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by ghoul:

Not reading all that but the show should've been better. We basically got a DmC reboot anime with all the edgelord dialogue and trash writing.

Disagree there.

DMC Reboot had a version of Dante that doesnt even act like Dante. It could have worked, but he's just annoying and edgy.

New Anime is its own thing, but Dante is on point. The new elements are preference, but I think they work generally well. Mostly as a look into "how would the world (mostly the military) react to DMC events", since the games kind of ignore that. Not 1:1 dmc events, but you get that.

Anime Lady acts like reboot Dante x 10000. Also Dante is uncharacteristically weak and stupid in the show, Not only does he get bested Lady MULTIPLE times. He also gets taken prisoner and somehow isn't strong enough to break handcuffs. This man can take a shotgun blast to the chest without blinking, but essentially gets tazed and thats apparently enough to defeat him. I dont believe Adi played any of the games other than the reboot

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by ghoul:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Disagree there.

DMC Reboot had a version of Dante that doesnt even act like Dante. It could have worked, but he's just annoying and edgy.

New Anime is its own thing, but Dante is on point. The new elements are preference, but I think they work generally well. Mostly as a look into "how would the world (mostly the military) react to DMC events", since the games kind of ignore that. Not 1:1 dmc events, but you get that.

Anime Lady acts like reboot Dante x 10000. Also Dante is uncharacteristically weak and stupid in the show, Not only does he get bested Lady MULTIPLE times. He also gets taken prisoner and somehow isn't strong enough to break handcuffs. This man can take a shotgun blast to the chest without blinking, but essentially gets tazed and thats apparently enough to defeat him. I dont believe Adi played any of the games other than the reboot

You forget that this is a Dante who knows even less about himself than the 3 version. He doesnt even know he's half demon at the start, and he's also playing around a lot. Takes out a ton of people without killing them easily until someone with more experience shows up and catches him off guard.

Lady is very rude and strict. But I mentioned why I think she works earlier. Its taking her 3 background and toning it up because instead of going solo and hunting down Arkham, she joins the military instead and constantly gets the idea that "all demons must and are evil" shoved into her head. Her experience with her father + the military training didnt affect her well.

She is also improving and developing, just slowly. And she realizes her mistake at the very end. My guess is that she will choose to quit her position after realizing how she’s been used

[Evil Sock]

It was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash. Making demons an allegory for refugees was retarded. then america invades hell while American Idiot plays in the background.

[Whamarama]

Originally posted by ghoul:

Not reading all that but the show should've been better. We basically got a DmC reboot anime with all the edgelord dialogue and trash writing.

If you watched Castlevania you knew what to expect.
It's practically the same show just a different setting.

*edit
I want to elaborate a little bit.
The Castlevania show which the same writers were involved with, butchered the characters and did the same "the bad guys are just misunderstood" shtick.
Also bloating the script with unnecessary swear words instead of writing competent dialogue.

[LCpl Nubcake]

Don't like the Netflix art style and the animation is atrocious.

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by LCpl Nubcake:

Don't like the Netflix art style and the animation is atrocious.

Understandable.

I think the animation for the action scenes is really fluid. But the use of 3D at points to save budget is jarring (Episodes 4 and 5). 2D fights I really enjoyed though and were luckily the majority

[mdesaleah]

I loved that ending. Cause it felt very much like an exaggerated parody moment. Comedic satire fitting of the 2000s time period. If the military was ever more present in the games, of course they’d have a ridiculously on the nose scene for fun

Serious context, but it’s also something that I know they had fun setting up. I always took DMC as very earnest but also comedic, so having a humorous scene like that felt in-character. Like Lady title dropping the series in DMC3, or “Devils Never Cry” in DMC1. Cheesy, funny, but a good moment

Commentary is where I can get that it has some issues depending on how you’d view it. But DMC4 has Dante headshot a pope right at the start, and DMC2 has him fight an evil businessman that screeches his endgame lines. Thinking about it, most DMC villains are humans abusing power (2, 3, 4), so the idea of an ending that highlights that extremely blatantly wasn’t that surprising

[Master Zone]

Fun? Bro, it was stupid... They made Lady the main character and they made the demons refugees.

[aka]

bait? if not I lost hope for humanity

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by aka:

bait? if not I lost hope for humanity

I mean, the show is still doing very well.

Boosted the game playercount a bunch, and is still on their top viewed list.

Not liking it sure, but saying it’s “universally agreed to be bad” is just full on wrong

[Umrite]

Originally posted by ghoul:

Not reading all that but the show should've been better. We basically got a DmC reboot anime with all the edgelord dialogue and trash writing.

Not a fair comparison. Comparing it even to the DmC reboot is insulting