Devil May Cry 5

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Latest patch is downloading 32GB, is that expected?
Hi,

The latest patch is download a 32GB patch. Are others seeing such a large download? Or did something get hosed in my install?
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petran79 Apr 24, 2023 @ 5:02am 
only 12 mb here
Arkaido Apr 24, 2023 @ 5:03am 
12mb here too. I am not sure what this update is for though after so many years
kevin.rogovin Apr 24, 2023 @ 5:09am 
Guess Steam decided to go crazy on me then... a 32GB download.
kevin.rogovin Apr 24, 2023 @ 5:12am 
Well ... this is messed up, it is updating an empty folder?? What the heck. Oh well, looks like a straight up re-download then. Weird. Wonder how the game was listed as installed if it was not even downloaded...
Vox Maximus Apr 24, 2023 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by kevin.rogovin:
Guess Steam decided to go crazy on me then... a 32GB download.
Looks like it decided to redownload the whole game.
MasterManiac Apr 24, 2023 @ 2:52pm 
I don't know which party deserves the most anger: Valve, or Capcom. Whole game wants to redownload from scratch for an "update" with no readily-apparent effect.

I just uninstalled it. Hopefully the Steam Deck install isn't borked.
Ninlilizi Apr 24, 2023 @ 4:48pm 
When Steam re-downloads games like that it means your hard drive is broken. Not outright failed broken. But broken enough to be corrupting itself. Less often the game files can be corrupted as written to disk due to either RAM or CPU instability.

It's time to stop looking for people to blame and fix your PC.
Last edited by Ninlilizi; Apr 24, 2023 @ 4:56pm
MasterManiac Apr 24, 2023 @ 11:10pm 
Originally posted by Ninlilizi:
When Steam re-downloads games like that it means your hard drive is broken. Not outright failed broken. But broken enough to be corrupting itself. Less often the game files can be corrupted as written to disk due to either RAM or CPU instability.

It's time to stop looking for people to blame and fix your PC.

lawl what a load of absolute toss.
kevin.rogovin Apr 26, 2023 @ 5:08am 
For me, I tracked it down some. The game was inside of Downloads underneath and I had futzed with my Steam install earlier.. I suspect having both of these together is why it went weird.

In hindsight, I think the best thing to do now is to NEVER install games to the default Steam library. This lets Steam pick it up correctly if one needs to reinstall steam (which I needed to do earlier).
Originally posted by Ninlilizi:
When Steam re-downloads games like that it means your hard drive is broken. Not outright failed broken. But broken enough to be corrupting itself. Less often the game files can be corrupted as written to disk due to either RAM or CPU instability.

It's time to stop looking for people to blame and fix your PC.

Never ever take anything seriously from someone who's got anime girls on his profile and is clearly going out of its way to defend a videogame company.
kevin.rogovin Apr 26, 2023 @ 6:44am 
I confess, I think my issue was my fault, but the machine was fine. The sequence is.. amusing.

I had some serious download performance issues on my laptop, so I deleted steam folder, but not the steamapps folder) and re-installed steam. Playing DmC 5 was fine... but for some reason it was in the downloading folder under steamapps.... so then something was a touch wonky. Closing Steam, moving it by hand and then "installing" it made the download tiny.

The lesson I take from that is to NOT have games installed under the Steam install folder and always use a Library. BUT, Steam does not allow to have another library folder on the same drive as the Steam install... which I sort of understand, but just sucks it acts that way. There are ways to trick Steam though (by doing this jazz where a folder stored on a drive becomes visible as its own drive, but I hate doing that crap).
aizaki Apr 26, 2023 @ 8:11am 
only 12 mb here
Ninlilizi Apr 26, 2023 @ 4:49pm 
Her profile. Imagine being cut up because somebody enjoys anime. Do you feel threatened by it?

Anyhow,

It's how differential compression works. The files have to be intact and unmodified before it begins, because the delta is applied to the existing data. That means before it can begin it CRCs the files. CRCs can only detect if a file has been modified, not where or how it's been modified. They can detect corruption, but not fix it. So, if the CRC fails there's no choice but to re-download the entire file or the delta would fail and break the game install entirely.

Many games, including this one, pack most of their assets inside a small number of large archives, which means the there is a lot to re-download if the CRC doesn't check out.
It's essentially good optimisation, because the assets are packed in a way that makes them faster to load. It only falls down if you've changed the game files (Modding is bad, mmm'kay) or your machine is randomly corrupting itself.
Last edited by Ninlilizi; Apr 26, 2023 @ 6:32pm
MasterManiac Apr 26, 2023 @ 10:46pm 
Originally posted by Ninlilizi:
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Load. Of. Nonsense.

OMG, DMC5 is redownloading its entire content bank. My hard drive must be broke'd! :ryanscared:

Even though Steam force-updates games *constantly,* and I don't get that problem with any of those (save, obviously, the updates pushed by lazy developers using bloated archives that force players to redownload massive chunks of data like ARMA 3 and, for a while, No Man's Sky).

Oh. That? Yeah, that's exactly what this is, btw. Updates pushed by lazy developers using bloated archives that force players to redownload massive chunks of data like ARMA 3 and, for a while, No Man's Sky. Your "good optimization" results in exactly that. Change the contents of a tiny file within a huge archive, and more often than not you'll fail to verify and need to redownload the whole damn archive. It's just sheer developer stupidity/laziness, without concern for the end user's time and/or bandwidth.

Why do the archives not fail to verify for some users when they do for others? The vagaries of content delivery. It is a mystery. But the answer is not "OMG your hard drive is broken!" That is simply nonsense.
Prinox Apr 27, 2023 @ 7:11am 
You had mods installed, that means Steam doesn't know how to handle that big 32 GB file in the game's folder so it downloads it again

Always remember to temporarily uninstall mods on games that don't officially support them to prevent stuff like this on updates
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