Game's difficulty

[DeadM00n]

I don't understand, why people say that dmc5 is too easy. Ofc, human and devil hunter are easy, but DMD and SOS equal to previous games, and HAH is MUCH harder than the same difficulty in dmc4 and, probably, every difficulty in any DMC game. Also, you can't just buy healing / DT orbs or saint water and always use it, even if you have much red orbs - only gold orbs which actually useless on HAH

[Stan]

People don't want to grind them self in higher difficulties but to start at hardest and then complain that game is too hard.

[Anderson Pig]

I'm definitely struggling with SoS, though I've never gone above Normal/Devil Hunter other than Hard for DMC3.

[f001er]

HaH is very easy as long as you dont care about rank, super costumes are OP. DMD, while pretty hard, can be cheesed to hell with spam of gold orbs, so again, as long as you dont care about rank it is a snooze. SoS and everything below is a joke. I dont remember struggling in 4th DMC, but pretty sure 1st and 3rd were waaay harder even on lower difficutlies.

I blame microtransactions, they shouldn't exist, Dante's hat shouldn't exist, 3 mil taunts shouldn't cost so much and you shouldn't be able to have infinite supply of gold orbs and option to ress with red orbs.

[DeadM00n]

Originally posted by f001er:

HaH is very easy as long as you dont care about rank, super costumes are OP. DMD, while pretty hard, can be cheesed to hell with spam of gold orbs, so again, as long as you dont care about rank it is a snooze. SoS and everything below is a joke. I dont remember struggling in 4th DMC, but pretty sure 1st and 3rd were waaay harder even on lower difficutlies.

I blame microtransactions, they shouldn't exist, Dante's hat shouldn't exist, 3 mil taunts shouldn't cost so much and you shouldn't be able to have infinite supply of gold orbs and option to ress with red orbs.

Play dmc and dont care about rank is just like play RPG and don't care about your choises: it's stupid^2 and opinion of those people must be ignored. Also, dmc1 and 3 was hard only on 1st walkthrough and DMD, ofc if you didn't use green, purple and gold orbs TOO much and learned enemies attacks.

[DucGrandma]

The problem is that Capcom dumb down the difficulty of Devil Hunter mode because people who played DMC5 in E3 complained about that. And that's how we are here today, some people now complain that the game is too easy

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by f001er:

HaH is very easy as long as you dont care about rank, super costumes are OP. DMD, while pretty hard, can be cheesed to hell with spam of gold orbs, so again, as long as you dont care about rank it is a snooze. SoS and everything below is a joke. I dont remember struggling in 4th DMC, but pretty sure 1st and 3rd were waaay harder even on lower difficutlies.

I blame microtransactions, they shouldn't exist, Dante's hat shouldn't exist, 3 mil taunts shouldn't cost so much and you shouldn't be able to have infinite supply of gold orbs and option to ress with red orbs.

You know, it's pretty stupid to blame microtransactions when you don't even care about ranks. DMC is all about stylish combos and improving your skills to achieve high ranks, if your choice is to simply cheese the game by buying red orbs with real money - Capcom totally deserved your money and you shouldn't blame anyone but yourself.

3 mil taunts are worthless in the actual fight, cuz they're too long. They're there just for giggles, don't know why you're complaining about it.

[TK]

Originally posted by MOYA_OBORONA:

Play dmc and dont care about rank is just like play RPG and don't care about your choises: it's stupid^2 and opinion of those people must be ignored. Also, dmc1 and 3 was hard only on 1st walkthrough and DMD, ofc if you didn't use green, purple and gold orbs TOO much and learned enemies attacks.

I don't often play RPGs, but when I do I don't care about my "choises".

lol.

[f001er]

Originally posted by MOYA_OBORONA:

Play dmc and dont care about rank is just like play RPG and don't care about your choises: it's stupid^2 and opinion of those people must be ignored. Also, dmc1 and 3 was hard only on 1st walkthrough and DMD, ofc if you didn't use green, purple and gold orbs TOO much and learned enemies attacks.

Well, that's just your opinion and it could also be ignored.

The thing is, it was never really like that before. In previous DMC you could be bad and spam items sure, but you actually had to spend a lot of time grinding to do that, so in the end, you either spend time to get gut or you spend time grinding and cheesing. And i think it was pretty much perfect, you had to commit one way or another.

In DMC5 you dont even need to grind to spam revives on every mission.

[f001er]

Originally posted by Yodel Daddy:

Originally posted by f001er:

HaH is very easy as long as you dont care about rank, super costumes are OP. DMD, while pretty hard, can be cheesed to hell with spam of gold orbs, so again, as long as you dont care about rank it is a snooze. SoS and everything below is a joke. I dont remember struggling in 4th DMC, but pretty sure 1st and 3rd were waaay harder even on lower difficutlies.

I blame microtransactions, they shouldn't exist, Dante's hat shouldn't exist, 3 mil taunts shouldn't cost so much and you shouldn't be able to have infinite supply of gold orbs and option to ress with red orbs.

You know, it's pretty stupid to blame microtransactions when you don't even care about ranks. DMC is all about stylish combos and improving your skills to achieve high ranks, if your choice is to simply cheese the game by buying red orbs with real money - Capcom totally deserved your money and you shouldn't blame anyone but yourself.

3 mil taunts are worthless in the actual fight, cuz they're too long. They're there just for giggles, don't know why you're complaining about it.

I never said i don't care about ranks. I like to S rank every mission. But the regular playthrough shouldn't be a joke. I'm complaining about taunts not because they are OP, it's because they are there to encourage microtransactions. But do you know what is OP AND encourage microtransactions? Dante's hat. You can one shot every boss with it on DMD and it will reward you with S rank in the end of it.

[Lynfinity]

Originally posted by f001er:

I never said i don't care about ranks. I like to S rank every mission. But the regular playthrough shouldn't be a joke.

It's not if people are smart enough to complete the game without revives. Of course, there's some individuals who refuse to git gud and want to finish the game no matter what. And this is why microtransactions are there. These people will happily throw away their money, so Capcom did a smart choice from financial standpoint.

Originally posted by f001er:

I'm complaining about taunts not because they are OP, it's because they are there to encourage microtransactions

Again, if someone is willing to throw away his money just to buy some worthless taunt as soon as possible - it's his own fault. Simple as that.

Originally posted by f001er:

But do you know what is OP AND encourage microtransactions? Dante's hat. You can one shot every boss with it on DMD and it will reward you with S rank in the end of it.

First, never heard about one-shotting bosses with Faust. Care to provide some proofs?

Second, excuse me? With hat you can obtain millions of orbs in less than an hour, what microtransactions you're talking about again?
https://youtu.be/SobG4PCt2QQ

[f001er]

This is literally everywhere on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl2hjWmPXd4

Completing the game without revives is self challenge, it has nothing to do with difficulty. With self challenges every game can be difficult.

Originally posted by Yodel Daddy:

Second, excuse me? With hat you can obtain millions of orbs in less than an hour, what microtransactions you're talking about again?
https://youtu.be/SobG4PCt2QQ

Well, the way i see it, they wanted mictrotransactions, but they didn't want the backlash EA get from it, so they made the hat, made it very costly to upgrade and made it OP, also made it possible to revive with red orbs. This video is just an example, literally whole DMD can be cheesed on S rank if you know how to use it. I feel like it is not a coincidence that this is the only game where such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weapon exists, also the only game where you dont need to be good to complete at all with unlimited revives. I'm not blaming microtransactions directly, they handled it well, i blaming the consequences of including them. I dont think the hat, red orb revives and unlimited gold orbs would have existed if microtransactions wasn't in the game. Even if i'm wrong and overthinking it, these things make game too easy anyway.

[BigLol]

Originally posted by f001er:

HaH is very easy as long as you dont care about rank, super costumes are OP. DMD, while pretty hard, can be cheesed to hell with spam of gold orbs, so again, as long as you dont care about rank it is a snooze. SoS and everything below is a joke. I dont remember struggling in 4th DMC, but pretty sure 1st and 3rd were waaay harder even on lower difficutlies.

I blame microtransactions, they shouldn't exist, Dante's hat shouldn't exist, 3 mil taunts shouldn't cost so much and you shouldn't be able to have infinite supply of gold orbs and option to ress with red orbs.

You can blame'em all you want.
I haven't spent a penny other than the game itself and in general I think I had around 30.
Of course you can just do gold orbs but it deplets your rank and then makes you get less red orbs making it very ineffective in the long run.

[f001er]

Originally posted by EyalolGadol:

You can blame'em all you want.
I haven't spent a penny other than the game itself and in general I think I had around 30.
Of course you can just do gold orbs but it deplets your rank and then makes you get less red orbs making it very ineffective in the long run.

Well, the topic were about whether DMC5 is too easy or not, well my point is, that it is, because you can revive yourself out of trouble, buy red orbs, so you can revive yourself out of trouble, or grind like 1 hour once you get faust, to always revive yourself out of trouble. Also you can one shot everything with Pay2win hat, and if you don't want to grind, you can buy red orb to use it.

[BigLol]

Originally posted by f001er:

Originally posted by EyalolGadol:

You can blame'em all you want.
I haven't spent a penny other than the game itself and in general I think I had around 30.
Of course you can just do gold orbs but it deplets your rank and then makes you get less red orbs making it very ineffective in the long run.

Well, the topic were about whether DMC5 is too easy or not, well my point is, that it is, because you can revive yourself out of trouble, buy red orbs, so you can revive yourself out of trouble, or grind like 1 hour once you get faust, to always revive yourself out of trouble. Also you can one shot everything with Pay2win hat, and if you don't want to grind, you can buy red orb to use it.

I'm sorry but are you aware of the terms you are throwing around?
How is it p2w if you don't pay for it?
"Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying."

Yes it's a good and effecient way to farm orbs but how in any way is it p2w?
If anything it's just making microtranscations less attractive to buy since you can just use dr.faust instead.

[f001er]

Originally posted by EyalolGadol:

Originally posted by f001er:

Well, the topic were about whether DMC5 is too easy or not, well my point is, that it is, because you can revive yourself out of trouble, buy red orbs, so you can revive yourself out of trouble, or grind like 1 hour once you get faust, to always revive yourself out of trouble. Also you can one shot everything with Pay2win hat, and if you don't want to grind, you can buy red orb to use it.

I'm sorry but are you aware of the terms you are throwing around?
How is it p2w if you don't pay for it?
"Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying."

Yes it's a good and effecient way to farm orbs but how in any way is it p2w?
If anything it's just making microtranscations less attractive to buy since you can just use dr.faust instead.

You should read my post before, where i explain my logic about that. Also don't forget, that to upgrade faust to the point, where you can farm with it you need to spend like 600+k orbs.