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CrashCast E Nov 24, 2018 @ 10:52am
Why is security so slow?
It's the main issue in my airports! Security gets to be so slow to the point where i'm spending thousands building gigantic, 8 line security zones for 8 gates! The main issue I see is that with the bag scanners, it seems only one person can use them at a time! Does anybody out there have any good ideas on the best configuration for security? (Ideally one that doesnt involve you contructing the most unrealistically big security zone ever?) Right now I've got 4 ID check stands, 4 bag scanners, and 4 metal detectors. I tried using the remote baggage scanner and the body scanner, but those seemed to slow the process down.
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RoxiSinister Nov 24, 2018 @ 10:56am 
Best advice I have is try tinkering with the ratio of securty stations. 2 stands, 1 bag scanner, 2 metal detectors works well for me, remote bag scanners seem a bit faster than regular bag scanners, but there could be other ratios which do better than what I'm using. Currently I'm using 3:2:3, and it also works well, but not sure if better, same, or worse than 2:1:2.
{DP} Tvipers2 Nov 24, 2018 @ 2:07pm 
The more security the more get through.... Are you staggering your flights to make the flow more continuous? Or do you have all flights landing at the same time? I ended up making my security at the -1 floor and making it 12 check, 12 remote bag, 15 detect
Scifiwriterguy Nov 24, 2018 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by 07CobaltGirl:
Best advice I have is try tinkering with the ratio of securty stations. 2 stands, 1 bag scanner, 2 metal detectors works well for me, remote bag scanners seem a bit faster than regular bag scanners, but there could be other ratios which do better than what I'm using. Currently I'm using 3:2:3, and it also works well, but not sure if better, same, or worse than 2:1:2.

Personally, I recommend 1:2:2 if using metal detectors, 1:2:3 if using bodyscanners. ID Check is typically fastest. It's also worth noting that remote bag check speed is dependent upon the number of units attached to a desk; past four or five, you'll see efficiency declines.

Also, always assign your machines to one another to form lanes; letting pax choose each individual step leads to high inefficiency.
LVGameDev  [developer] Nov 24, 2018 @ 7:49pm 
These are all good answers.

How far is security from ticketing? Security to the gates? Both of these will also impact how fast the pax pursue security, which could result in a slightly later-than-desired "blitz" on security.

All of this compounds of course, so if you have 3-4 "inefficiencies" -- or even just a tough schedule (flights not staggered much) -- then the small problem can quickly cascade into a major one that causes many, many more missed flights than you'd have with all else the same except with a more staggered schedule, for instance. :)
RoxiSinister Nov 25, 2018 @ 12:44am 
Originally posted by Scifiwriterguy:
Originally posted by 07CobaltGirl:
Best advice I have is try tinkering with the ratio of securty stations. 2 stands, 1 bag scanner, 2 metal detectors works well for me, remote bag scanners seem a bit faster than regular bag scanners, but there could be other ratios which do better than what I'm using. Currently I'm using 3:2:3, and it also works well, but not sure if better, same, or worse than 2:1:2.

Personally, I recommend 1:2:2 if using metal detectors, 1:2:3 if using bodyscanners. ID Check is typically fastest. It's also worth noting that remote bag check speed is dependent upon the number of units attached to a desk; past four or five, you'll see efficiency declines.

Also, always assign your machines to one another to form lanes; letting pax choose each individual step leads to high inefficiency.

Check stands are definitely faster, but you can have two people using a bag scanner at the same time. One on the entrance, and one on the exit. For this reason, 2 stands are better, as they alternate and keep it flowing. Metal detectors are the slowest link, which is why I was using two. Body scanners get backed up with only 1 bag scanner for 3 body scanners, so they are useless to me. Remote scanners do slow down if monitored in larger numbers, so that is a valid point. But I was not suggesting a ratio to use. Only that a ratio other than 1:1:1 is a requirement. There are other factors impacting speeds through securityas suggested by the Dev, which culd explain why we have difference of opinion based on our own results.
'Strict Nov 25, 2018 @ 7:19am 
Yeah in my airport I have 2 "Security halls" and I use 12-15-21 (no idea why that number but it's what I could fit, and have been adding more of what's been needed more, and I typically use remote scanners, didn't know about the slowdown though so thanks for that =)

Been subscribing to airports in the workshop to try and see how others have done theirs but I don't know how to get those airports in my game =/
RoxiSinister Nov 25, 2018 @ 10:03am 
To get them in the game you can just click on "Play Now" on the workshop screen in the game, then save it as your own. There is a subscribe button also, but I've never really used it. I tried clicking it just now, and it tells me I am subscribed, but I have no idea where I would find it since it doesn't show up in Mods or in Saves.
'Strict Nov 25, 2018 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by 07CobaltGirl:
To get them in the game you can just click on "Play Now" on the workshop screen in the game, then save it as your own. There is a subscribe button also, but I've never really used it. I tried clicking it just now, and it tells me I am subscribed, but I have no idea where I would find it since it doesn't show up in Mods or in Saves.


Yeah I posted about the same thing in the Workshop part of the forums earlier and saying just that, been going through my game files, save files and so on and can't find it =p

But I guess finding it in the workshop in-game would work (I hope it has a search function =)
RoxiSinister Nov 25, 2018 @ 10:47am 
Well, if you subscribe on the workshop in browser/steam client, you can sort by subscribed items and find it that way.
'Strict Nov 25, 2018 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by 07CobaltGirl:
Well, if you subscribe on the workshop in browser/steam client, you can sort by subscribed items and find it that way.

Ah cheers, I only clicked the Workshop in-game once but closed it down instantly when I realized it was just to look for new things and not to see what you had =) (so to speak)
Morpheus Nov 29, 2018 @ 4:20pm 
Any chance we could get a screen shot to see your layout?
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Date Posted: Nov 24, 2018 @ 10:52am
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