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elevator spring puzzle
how do i get the elevator springs to the right weight? i have the wrench, i just need to know how many times to turn each bolt, because i suck at maths and can't figure that out.
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Adraxas Aug 10, 2017 @ 3:44pm 
its 4 2 6
MidnightAccident Aug 10, 2017 @ 4:18pm 
thanks!
Sum Gai Aug 11, 2017 @ 9:19pm 
trying to remember what the name of this style of puzzle is.
Asymmetric  [developer] Aug 12, 2017 @ 5:03am 
I designed it, and I'd call it "poorly crafted math puzzle"... (Sorry)
Last edited by Asymmetric; Aug 12, 2017 @ 5:03am
Sum Gai Aug 12, 2017 @ 3:22pm 
heh, funny, but what sort of math puzzle? what formulea are we meant to use to solve this? etc. etc. and anon, forever in a pit. :P
Jimmy D Aug 12, 2017 @ 6:27pm 
bolt 1 increases the pressure by 411
bolt 2 increases the pressure by 295
bolt 3 increases the pressure by 161
i just kept trying different combinations that would get me both close and a number ending in 0 and hit it accidentally.
i tried plugging 411x+295y+161z=3200 into an online calculator but it didn't come out right, it tried to solve for x only so y and z were turned into odd fractions
MidnightAccident Aug 13, 2017 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Asymmetric:
I designed it, and I'd call it "poorly crafted math puzzle"... (Sorry)
it's cool, the rest of the game is brilliant, it's just a couple of puzzles that are a pain.
Gym_Leader_Myth Aug 13, 2017 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Jinh:
bolt 1 increases the pressure by 411
bolt 2 increases the pressure by 295
bolt 3 increases the pressure by 161
i just kept trying different combinations that would get me both close and a number ending in 0 and hit it accidentally.
i tried plugging 411x+295y+161z=3200 into an online calculator but it didn't come out right, it tried to solve for x only so y and z were turned into odd fractions

I wrote it out longhand, and checked the values against each other, starting with the first column

Since 1 always increases the tension by 41, 2 always increases by 295, and 3 always increases by 161, i knew that 1 and 3 were the most important values.

also: the maximum value for X,Y, and Z is 10. That should help a lot.

but seriously the puzzle was a bit of a pain. I got it to work, but it was a pain.
hippofant Aug 13, 2017 @ 10:53pm 
Originally posted by Jinh:
bolt 1 increases the pressure by 411
bolt 2 increases the pressure by 295
bolt 3 increases the pressure by 161
i just kept trying different combinations that would get me both close and a number ending in 0 and hit it accidentally.
i tried plugging 411x+295y+161z=3200 into an online calculator but it didn't come out right, it tried to solve for x only so y and z were turned into odd fractions

It's not a generally solvable system - 3 variables, 1 equation - so online solvers are going to be stymied. The fact that the coefficients must be positive integers means there's only one solution, but most online calculators aren't programmed for that.
Kaidelong Aug 14, 2017 @ 12:17am 
Warning, if you run this, you'll spoil the answer.

import Data.List(find) kleene alphabet = [] : [(x : xs) | xs <- kleene alphabet, x <- alphabet] main = print $ find (\x -> sum x == 3200) (kleene [411,295,161])

I am pretty sure this is the knapsack problem, which is NP-complete. If a solution exists, this will find it O(3^n) time, where n is the size of the solution.
Last edited by Kaidelong; Aug 14, 2017 @ 12:23am
Renata Aug 14, 2017 @ 10:25am 
You can also skip the whole puzzle with the Percussive Maintenance perk
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Date Posted: Aug 10, 2017 @ 2:45pm
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