Sunless Skies story questions (massive spoilers)

[Silver]

I'm not gonna mark everything in black since it makes reading difficult, so read at your own peril.

There are a couple things I dont understand and I would appreciate it if someone better versed in the lore could help out.


1) what are the husks of the ginormous things you come across in the game. Like in the reach, there's one called Faith's Fall and another called Grave of the Silent Saint. A third one is i believe the crablike thing in Eleutheria where the Blemmigan live. These monstrous things were some kinds of servants, but to who? The Suns/Judgements?

2) who is the Regent in Regent's grave?

3) Isnt the Sun/Judgement of the Reach called the Green Regent and isnt his grave in Old Tom's well?

4) am i correct in understanding that the Halved in Eleutheria is the black sun of eleutheria, but it originally had a twin that was slain and the halved is the only surviving twin? And the tale of how the other (who?) was slain is narrated by the thing in Eleutheria's well of wonders but who is the thing inside that well?

5) who resides in albion's well of the wolf? someone said the ur-devil, is he related to the female one you meet in st. dominic's station in london during a different storylet? and why was he cast in there? something about a rebellion against someone (the judgement of albion) for refusing to sing?

6) isnt the skeleton of the dead judgement of the reach in old tom's well and if yes, which living thing in the well did old tom make a pact with?

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7) In The Truth ambition, i feel like the screenplay writers veered off somewhere towards the end and hastily tried to cobble together an ending and tie loose ends in the most arachnid of ways (lol). What I mean is that we spend two thirds of the game trying to find out that 1) suns are dying and 2) how are they dying but never get to the part as to who is killing them. Somehow i got the feeling that there isnt a villain here but they're just engaged in a universe spanning free-for-all and basically settling scores using the code or courtesy or whatever it is called; the james bond style license-to-kill. Roughly at this point the devs inject the sorrow spider thing in the well as the one to help you kill the last remaining sun yourself, and again, the only reason you do this is cause you found out about the whole thing and agreeing to kill a sun is the only way to stop being hunted by that blue flame. It just seems like a bizarre twist of events. I mean sure, you have the option of escaping the high wilderness instead of taking matters to your own hands, but saving the sun isnt an option and... why spiders, of all things. Ugh. It just made me feel like the ultimate villain character rather than any kind of savior. HOWEVER, once i found out what was happening beyond death's door I did begin to hate the blue kingdom and thought they were some kind of soul sucking ursurpers who had been preventing souls from reaching the true afterlife by luring them into their kingdom for the king's sustenance. In that perspective, doing the spiders' bidding seemed just.

8) somewhere i read that queen victoria's children are deformed monsters and she put them into piranesi to change them back into beautiful things again and then transferred them to perdurance to preserve them forever, is that right?

9) is it ever revealed who killed the judgements of the reach and albion and why, other than that it happened a long time ago before humans had crossed the avid horizon?

10) what's really going on beyond death's door? is that like the actual unavoidable afterlife in the FL universe, or is it merely the sapphir'd king's personal maw, basically a star consuming all the poor souls who it attracted to his blue kingdom domain for sustenance?

[Ellixer]

4) Yes. The thing in the well, if I recall correctly, was the fingerking who orchestrated that whole thing. We do not know how the Halved converted however.

8) I do not remember this at all. Her children have become deformed monsters since London, yes (with two exceptions, the Incognito Princess, who may well be monstrous but is at least in appearance a normal person, and the other Princess in Albion, who became a monster but can optionally in Fallen London be turned back to a human, at least in appearance), but I do not recall her children being forced to transform back.

[Silver]

okay so i did some reading and found some answers myself since this forum is about as much alive as the prince consort.


2) apparently he was a gardener tasked by the green regent, the judgement of the reach, to keep the vegetation nicely trimmed, but is killed for some transgression and is so terribly sorry about it that he tries to make amends even beyond death, even with the knowledge his regent is long dead, hence tasking you or your fellow researcher to do his job of trimming the vegetation for a year.

fun fact: the souls of regents live on in the form of winds that wander about their realms. in the reach it's the peacock wind, in eleutheria it is the candle wind. strangely there is none for the king of hours in albion. but perhaps the wefts of time are his "wind", rather than a by-product of the malfunctioning clockwork sun.

4) eleutheria being full of huge ruins tumbling around the empty sky is also the result of the halved, originally known as the king who wars, basically wrecking everything (like "the great library") in grief over the murder of his brother, the king who speaks, by a cult called the solonacean conjunction that (i believe) held the same ideals as the liberation of night (the desire to kill all suns/judgements for their act of emitting light) but then siding with his brothers' killers (perhaps to spare its own life) by deciding to do the opposite of what a sun does, i.e. deciding to henceforth radiate darkness and relinquishing its role as lawgiver and allowing lawlessness to spread in eleutheria (hence it becoming a safe haven for the smugglers called the gentlemen) and also imprisoning any servants of other judgements transgressing into its realm like the blue kingdom spirit(s) imprisoned in piranesi.

9) the judgement of the reach was killed by the halved from eleutheria. as to why, perhaps because this happened after it had sided with the liberation of night and had now adopted the philosophy of murdering other judgements. the judgment of albion, the king of hours however, was killed by the sapphir'd king and his daughter because the latter two belong to the amarinthine conjunction which values endings while the king of hours had tried to make his realm immortal by manipulating time (like in perdurance) thus becoming their ideological enemy.

[Riccioli d'Orco]

Originally posted by Silver:

I'm not gonna mark everything in black since it makes reading difficult, so read at your own peril.

Prepare for massive spoilers then

1) the "husks" of the giant space-crostaceans are messangers, they are being purposefully created by the suns to give messages and they can be killed by other suns (mostly) as a war declaration or as a betrayal (the halved did this).
given the nature of "suns" the message and "time" are realtive, you might want to check the bazaar's love story for how convoluted things can get when locally semi-omnipotent beings act on a whim

2) a servant (possibly a devil) who taught plants and animals how to speak (THE MADMAN). Keep in mind that devil's souls can randomly change outside of their control so his betrayal might not have been entirely volountary

3) Yes, suns can outlive their physical bodies but live in relatively weakened forms if they chose to do so (like the storm that talks). As far as i know, only an enginae can fully kill a sun and only if culpable of unsanctioned love (aka creating something outside the realm of the great chain).

4)the twins were a binary star system so it is unlikely that the halved is entirely himself (the king who wars) or has just gone insane.
The prohet is/was a fingerking. Fingerkings are parasitic by nature and cannot be killed in the realm of law and or dreams (they reside in the latter) therefore if one were to have anarchic aspirations you can see the result in eleutheria

5)Either the gigachad devil boss of the devils or simply an high ranking prince of the devils and was imprisoned to make an example.
The devils rebelled en masse because they were direct servants/cooks/someliers of the judgment but they wanted to be able to gorge on souls themselves (wich they still can't) and so they rebelled and took refuge in the dreams (aka Parabola).

6) It is most likely a sun. like mentioned in point 5, the sun can "eat" souls. This is speculated to sustain them since souls in this universe are physical and function as energy sources. fun fact: people souls can also turn into suns (see judgment eggs)

7) Suns are at the top of the Chain (but not above it :^] ). They die and are reborn but on an unimaginably longer time scale.
Suns are given free reign on how to "create" and "rule" a kingdom so they can be totally insane by our point of view. There are schools of "tought" on how a kingdom should be ruled hence why there are varius factions of suns who war eachother creating, killing etc. etc.
It's a basic metaphor on how godlike beings are not gods and behave much like mortals themselves (with all pros and cons)
Also in the truth ending you didn't kill all the sun, just one.
Also the spiders live by putting eggs into eyes, when they put eggs into sun's eyes they spawn gigachad spiders so they are basically playing tyranids in a lovecraft universe.

8) Only the one that came in the reach (you can find the princess former body during her quest line) but i can't remember wich one came and wich ones didn't since some of them survived their historical counterparts.

9) YES but it's the secret ambition storyline! try exploring the mausoleum for more clues, i won't spoil this one!

10)It's a cuisine, the sapphire king is consuming souls.
It's not clear if this is a better or worse fate for souls in the FL universe tough.
It's not clear what happens to "destroyed" souls but it's pretty clear that when a soul is devoured by a sun it becomes part of the sun... i'll let you speculate on what it entails since there is no definite consensus on this

Sorry for my broken english. I'll ask you to forgive me for not giving sources since this all derived from reading the FL wiki, the sunless sea/skie wiki, the discord and the forums.