How fun is this game?

[Gonger02]

I've played FF1, FF7, FF9 and FF10 and ive enjoyed all of them. I am currently playing 16 but i also want to try 12. I've heard this game is basically an offline MMO so i was wondering if the game's combat is good. Also would it be better if I play tactics first since its the same universe?

[Hinnyuu]

On a scale from 1 to Z, I'd give this a solid fresh stars.

It's more like 7-10 than it is like 16, that's for sure. Combat is more real-time than in the earlier FFs, but it still has the classic ATB system. The story is more mature than some of the earlier FFs - more about politics and big questions, with an ensemble cast rather than a dedicated hero character.

The remaster itself is very well done. Arguably the best of all the FF remasters, with 60 fps out of the box, split language selection, etc.

[Melodia]

Well it's my most played game on Steam.

[Casurin]

Define "Fun": The story is not all fun-and-games but it is a really enjoyeable game.
As any FF it is rather easy, but if you just try to bruteforce it you will get bitchslaped.
The story is less focused on any particular character and their indivdual actual actions. The combat is more focused on you setting up the team to take the right actions them self - which really helps with the overall feel of the world as you can enjoy it a lot more (for boss-battles you will want to micro-manage it).
It does not have a world-map like the pre-PS2 games had, but it still feels rather big as it has more open areas with cross-connections and it is worth exploring them (as well as looking and sounding great).

[harrified]

FF12 has similarities to them in the way the game is structur'd, (like exploration & enemy encounters) but personally I can't stand MMOs. I've play'd a bit of each Final Fantasy from #5 to 10; I've found 12 & 5 to be my favorites, in part because of the gameplay versus the others.

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Also would it be better if I play tactics first since its the same universe?

Playing FFT first isn't requir'd at all. They may share the same world, but they stand separately on their own. I play'd Tactics prior to 12 & it made no difference to me, so I'd say just play whichever intrists you.

[Gonger02]

Originally posted by harrified:

FF12 has similarities to them in the way the game is structur'd, (like exploration & enemy encounters) but personally I can't stand MMOs. I've play'd a bit of each Final Fantasy from #5 to 10; I've found 12 & 5 to be my favorites, in part because of the gameplay versus the others.

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Also would it be better if I play tactics first since its the same universe?

Playing FFT first isn't requir'd at all. They may share the same world, but they stand separately on their own. I play'd Tactics prior to 12 & it made no difference to me, so I'd say just play whichever intrists you.

Thanks, so its the same world as tactics but the story of it had no effect on 12?

[harrified]

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Thanks, so its the same world as tactics but the story of it had no effect on 12?

FF12 takes place some 1k years prior to FFT. There are some recurring characters, like the boss Belias from FFT is your first summon in FF12 somehow. But I'm not much of a nerd on either game's setting/narrative, so I can't say if there's real meaning behind it, or if it's akin to the recurrence of Cid in every game.

[Kule02]

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Thanks, so its the same world as tactics but the story of it had no effect on 12?

The events of FFXII are myth by the time of Tactics. The only thing which people remember is that airships once existed. I played FFXII first and Tactics after and it was fine. I think it might be better in that order as it makes the espers less of a disappointment. In Tactics they have a larger role in the story, whereas in FFXII they're almost an afterthought.

[Gonger02]

Originally posted by neonsquare:

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Thanks, so its the same world as tactics but the story of it had no effect on 12?

The events of FFXII are myth by the time of Tactics. The only thing which people remember is that airships once existed. I played FFXII first and Tactics after and it was fine. I think it might be better in that order as it makes the espers less of a disappointment. In Tactics they have a larger role in the story, whereas in FFXII they're almost an afterthought.

Thanks, then ill play ff12 first

[Shuyin178]

The story is good, characters are highly customizable in terms of their individual gameplay (not visually), the combat is also customizable to help with various scenarios once you unlock the Gambit system, and this game has a TON of content (both story and side) to get through. Some of the side content might be best done with a guide, but that's fine.

[uni790]

I like it overall, the story is a bit meh, seems a bit random at times, the world space you play in is relatively small compared to earlier titles, however, the combat system is probably the best they've ever come up with. More games need to make use of their gambit system, rather then whatever crappy allied AI setup they think is best.

[Gonger02]

Originally posted by uni790:

I like it overall, the story is a bit meh, seems a bit random at times, the world space you play in is relatively small compared to earlier titles, however, the combat system is probably the best they've ever come up with. More games need to make use of their gambit system, rather then whatever crappy allied AI setup they think is best.

How is the combat? I thought they just attacked automatically like ff11

[uni790]

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Originally posted by uni790:

I like it overall, the story is a bit meh, seems a bit random at times, the world space you play in is relatively small compared to earlier titles, however, the combat system is probably the best they've ever come up with. More games need to make use of their gambit system, rather then whatever crappy allied AI setup they think is best.

How is the combat? I thought they just attacked automatically like ff11

Well, I was gonna grab a screenshot to show, but they game refuses to launch today, lol.

Basically you set up what you want the character's to do, say a black mage you can set it weak to fire, cast fire, if weak to ice cast ice, and so on, that way they go down their list of gambits from the top until they find one that fits their target and uses it(don't forget to set one as if vulnerable cast fire(or something) so that they're not just standing around doing nothing).

Probably makes a lot more sense to see it in action with a screenshot or the like then have me try and explain things, you basically set up scripts for the AI to follow using hundreds of preset options, you can have any character performing exactly how you want them to.

[Gonger02]

Originally posted by uni790:

Originally posted by Gonger02:

How is the combat? I thought they just attacked automatically like ff11

Well, I was gonna grab a screenshot to show, but they game refuses to launch today, lol.

Basically you set up what you want the character's to do, say a black mage you can set it weak to fire, cast fire, if weak to ice cast ice, and so on, that way they go down their list of gambits from the top until they find one that fits their target and uses it(don't forget to set one as if vulnerable cast fire(or something) so that they're not just standing around doing nothing).

Probably makes a lot more sense to see it in action with a screenshot or the like then have me try and explain things, you basically set up scripts for the AI to follow using hundreds of preset options, you can have any character performing exactly how you want them to.

So its like programing where you give them a set of instructions and they will follow them in order?

[uni790]

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Originally posted by uni790:

Well, I was gonna grab a screenshot to show, but they game refuses to launch today, lol.

Basically you set up what you want the character's to do, say a black mage you can set it weak to fire, cast fire, if weak to ice cast ice, and so on, that way they go down their list of gambits from the top until they find one that fits their target and uses it(don't forget to set one as if vulnerable cast fire(or something) so that they're not just standing around doing nothing).

Probably makes a lot more sense to see it in action with a screenshot or the like then have me try and explain things, you basically set up scripts for the AI to follow using hundreds of preset options, you can have any character performing exactly how you want them to.

So its like programing where you give them a set of instructions and they will follow them in order?

Guess so, I don't know much about programming, but you do have a list of instructions and they follow it from top to bottom. You do have to unlock these instructions as you progress the game though, they aren't all there from the start.

[uni790]

Originally posted by Gonger02:

Originally posted by uni790:

Well, I was gonna grab a screenshot to show, but they game refuses to launch today, lol.

Basically you set up what you want the character's to do, say a black mage you can set it weak to fire, cast fire, if weak to ice cast ice, and so on, that way they go down their list of gambits from the top until they find one that fits their target and uses it(don't forget to set one as if vulnerable cast fire(or something) so that they're not just standing around doing nothing).

Probably makes a lot more sense to see it in action with a screenshot or the like then have me try and explain things, you basically set up scripts for the AI to follow using hundreds of preset options, you can have any character performing exactly how you want them to.

So its like programing where you give them a set of instructions and they will follow them in order?

Got it running, lol

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338428833