Dumb question as I dont play it anymore

[Slevin]

I've played A LOT of FF XII back in the days on ps2 and bought this years ago. Played it and saw the new "perks/magic" board system. Is there a way to reverse that on the same save file without actually starting from scrap? I honestly didnt like it, game felt so unbalanced like if I somehow "cheated". I want the pure experience :')

[Hinnyuu]

I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

Do you mean reset your job choices and license picks? Yes, that is a feature of this version: you can reset any character's jobs/boards and refund all their LP, for free and as many times as you wish. Simply talk to Montblanc the moogle at your clan HQ and he will allow you to reset any character you like.

[jpfr12]

Yes, you can change the chosen job system for any character. Just go to the "Clan Headquarters" and talk to Montblanc.
The good thing is that you never lose your License Points.

[Slevin]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

Do you mean reset your job choices and license picks? Yes, that is a feature of this version: you can reset any character's jobs/boards and refund all their LP, for free and as many times as you wish. Simply talk to Montblanc the moogle at your clan HQ and he will allow you to reset any character you like.

No, I meant the actual old system where each character had its board and thats it! I dont wanna create a combo of 2 jobs for each one of them, but I guess its not a thing anymore. Talking to montblanc also does what you guys told me but doesnt make me select a "classic" version of the boards :(

[Casurin]

Ah, the old first-gen PS2 board where there was just one board and everybody could do everything:
Not in the game as is, but there are mods for that as people really wanted it.


That said i would suggest giving the Job-system a try:
While characters cant do "everything" it usually is the better way with focusing on specific tasks. Even in the old game a healer would not be all that useful if not fully equiped for healing - in which case the offensive power was also drastically decreased.
With the jobs they can be more focused on one job and be better at that. i say 1 job cause realistically that is what you do with the 2 jobs: You want a melee fighter so you get a job that is great at that and then as a second job you choose something that augments that - like adding tzhe ability to wear white robes to boost excalibur.

[Slevin]

Originally posted by Casurin:

Ah, the old first-gen PS2 board where there was just one board and everybody could do everything:
Not in the game as is, but there are mods for that as people really wanted it.


That said i would suggest giving the Job-system a try:
While characters cant do "everything" it usually is the better way with focusing on specific tasks. Even in the old game a healer would not be all that useful if not fully equiped for healing - in which case the offensive power was also drastically decreased.
With the jobs they can be more focused on one job and be better at that. i say 1 job cause realistically that is what you do with the 2 jobs: You want a melee fighter so you get a job that is great at that and then as a second job you choose something that augments that - like adding tzhe ability to wear white robes to boost excalibur.

I've never liked mmorpg or games where you have a strong variety of items to make combos with. They are so redundant and dispersive to me. Thats why I was looking for the original board experience. I also remember to beat the game when I was a kid with a very strong party, all bounties, great armors and weapons so I would have liked to re do that but yeah, I'll just keep on going with this cause the save file is also pretty close to the story end

[Casurin]

Originally posted by Slevin:

I've never liked mmorpg or games where you have a strong variety of items to make combos with. They are so redundant and dispersive to me.

if they are redundant then there is a problem already with the basic design.

Originally posted by Slevin:

Thats why I was looking for the original board experience. I also remember to beat the game when I was a kid with a very strong party, all bounties, great armors and weapons so I would have liked to re do that but yeah, I'll just keep on going with this cause the save file is also pretty close to the story end

I personally also prefered the original... at first. Cause i could just do whatever i want and with the IZJS you had to know what you would need or you would end up 100 hours into the game only to notice that you messed up.

Focusing characters to excell at different tasks is nice imo, just don't force it to such insane degrees like they did in FF9.
In ZA with the 2 jobs and the option to just reset it - there isn't much of a downside. You can still make a character that can do magical and physical damage. It just wont be as good as having them focus on a specific job.

[WhateverWorks]

There is an editor, you can make the license board whatever you want it to be. You can make it the same as the original, you can make it the same but add in the new items and skills. You can make it something unique to your game. Or download a pre-existing one from the Nexus. It's PC, there are options.

[Slevin]

Originally posted by WhateverWorks:

There is an editor, you can make the license board whatever you want it to be. You can make it the same as the original, you can make it the same but add in the new items and skills. You can make it something unique to your game. Or download a pre-existing one from the Nexus. It's PC, there are options.

I personally, dont like mods also. I'm probably the only person on this planet who never added a mod on skyrim except ultra hd graphic before it was official LOL Yeah I know its weird, but I tend to dislike adding a lot of stuff on things, either it is a videogame or anything else. I might give it a try tho, thanks for the suggestion ^^

[WhateverWorks]

Just so I'm understanding correctly, you're a purist about video games and don't like to make changes, but you also don't like the way the game was made by the creators. If you don't like how it is, and also aren't willing to change it, then this topic makes zero sense to even make in the first place. If you want the original license board, then the ONLY way to have that is to change what already exists in the game. I'm not sure what other solution there is supposed to be? By definition what you're asking for is a way to change the game.

As for new things making it feel like "cheating" this version is definitely the more difficult of the two.

[raystevens73]

The original license board mod in this game vrs the original game are 2 different things. In this they changed just about every aspect except the visuals and story. Drops, chest, rare steals, difficulty, strategies and of course the original license board have all changed. If you die in this version after playing the original game it's because you just got sloppy or you just don't have your heart into because of the disappointment of what they did. If you played the original game and was even half way good at setting your gambits up then Yiazmat in this is just watching a movie play out where as even getting through the vampire bats to reach Zodiac in the original game was a hard fight.

[Slevin]

Originally posted by WhateverWorks:

Just so I'm understanding correctly, you're a purist about video games and don't like to make changes, but you also don't like the way the game was made by the creators. If you don't like how it is, and also aren't willing to change it, then this topic makes zero sense to even make in the first place. If you want the original license board, then the ONLY way to have that is to change what already exists in the game. I'm not sure what other solution there is supposed to be? By definition what you're asking for is a way to change the game.

As for new things making it feel like "cheating" this version is definitely the more difficult of the two.

The original game is one and only, FFXII for ps2. Soooo, I thought this was the exact same game ported on pc with few tweaks here in there about graphic and audio, not some sever game changing stuff. So no, I dont like. Can I not like it or do I need others approvation? Since my question was answered by many I thank you for your service, can rest now marine.

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Slevin:

The original game is one and only, FFXII for ps2. Soooo, I thought this was the exact same game ported on pc with few tweaks here in there about graphic and audio, not some sever game changing stuff. So no, I dont like. Can I not like it or do I need others approvation? Since my question was answered by many I thank you for your service, can rest now marine.

You are, of course, always free to like what you like and dislike what you dislike. That's how it SHOULD be.

However, there are good reasons they made the changes they did, and by and large, they seem to be more popular than the original version of things. And there's very justifiable reasons behind that related to replay value etc. Not to mention some of the less visible changes that smoothed over some of the original's rough edges, such as the obscure Zodiac Spear puzzle and so on, many of which were a source of endless frustration for players for no good reason.

It's not unreasonable for people to come in and make arguments for why those changes may have improved the game, or why it is folly to assume that just because something is "the original" that means it must be the best it could ever be.

You are entirely free to disagree, of course. Even with good arguments, it ultimately comes down to personal preference - which is inviolate. If you don't like something, that's the end of that. You get to like/dislike whatever you want, and while other people can try and persuade you, they do not get to disabuse you of your preferences. That is and always will be yours and yours alone.

That being said, though, it is also a little confrontational to simply deflect everything with "it's not the original", which is at best tautological and at worst seems obstinate and unreasonable. It's entirely fine to retain your preference AFTER taking on board other people's attempts at persuasion; but it's a little rude to just rebuff them outright.

[Melodia]

And of course the majority of the changes were made in 2007...

[「Lukja」]

I feel like the introduction of TZA made the game easier as a whole.
Unless I was just a really dumb kid back then.

[Slevin]

Originally posted by 「Lukja」:

I feel like the introduction of TZA made the game easier as a whole.
Unless I was just a really dumb kid back then.

It definetely did. As a kid I was performing great on FF games and I still know FF8 better than anybody around probably :D So as far as I can remember about the 12th, ZA is easier.