Hunter Club no zodiac spear ?? What the F*ck

[The High Seraph]

Wiki said that I need to give 16 trophies to Atak and my score is now

16 to Atak
0 to Blok
and 0 to Stok

But they don’t give me the spear ! What the f*ck is this cr*p ?

Game bug or am I missing something? Help !

[Soda Sip]

That should be only after you give all 30 if I remember right.

[The High Seraph]

All 30 to Atak ? Seriously ? This is ridiculous ..

[Soda Sip]

No, at least 16 to Atak, rest can go to the others.

[The High Seraph]

So ... I must acquire all trophies and Atak must be 16 ? Ok .. this s*ucks . I am doing rare game about 5 hrs non stop hoping to get this f*cking spear after getting 16 . Now I am suffering from headache and nausea . Gosh i just complete 50%

[Hinnyuu]

To get Zodiac Spear from the Hunt Club vendor, you need to distribute the trophies 10/10/10. If you give 15+ to Atak and 0/0 to the other two, that unlocks Stoneblade, not Zodiac Spear. 30 to Atak with 0/0 to the others unlocks Masamune.

If you're talking end-of-club rewards, then yes, 16+ to Atak (any to the others) gives Zodiac Spear as well. Either way you need to finish all 30 first.

Note that giving 10/10/10 also gives Zodiac Escutcheon, while 16+ to Atak does not.

[Arkhne]

There's a reason why Zodiac Spear just isn't worth it in this version. It now suffers from most of the same issues that Wyrmhero did. Particularly since there are weapons around that are at least almost as good (and some even better in practice). It's just not worth the effort. Just use high-end Bazaar weapons instead, much easier/quicker/earlier, and will do the job more than well enough (game is so much easier now that it isn't funny).

[Hinnyuu]

Zodiac Spear was never particularly powerful even in the original, aside of course from the fact that it was potentially available VERY early and accordingly ridiculous; then again, the old Fomalhaut was also available reasonably early, in infinite amounts, and to everyone. Plenty of game-breaking back in those days.

Like Tournesol, Zodiac Spear suffered from the damage cap problem, and the fact that its combo rate was too low to compensate. It wasn't a BAD weapon by any stretch, but outclassed by alternatives.

In that respect, Zodiac Spear is probably better in TZA, since there's no damage cap anymore. It's a great trash-clearing weapon, second only to boosted Excalibur in per-hit damage. Of course, it still has a low combo rate, and even without a damage cap, it can't quite compete. It's not TOO far behind, but then again, it's also not TOO much ahead of Holy Lance + White Robes. And yes, it's available stupidly late for how middling it is.

[Arkhne]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Zodiac Spear was never particularly powerful even in the original, aside of course from the fact that it was potentially available VERY early and accordingly ridiculous; then again, the old Fomalhaut was also available reasonably early, in infinite amounts, and to everyone. Plenty of game-breaking back in those days.

Like Tournesol, Zodiac Spear suffered from the damage cap problem, and the fact that its combo rate was too low to compensate. It wasn't a BAD weapon by any stretch, but outclassed by alternatives.

In that respect, Zodiac Spear is probably better in TZA, since there's no damage cap anymore. It's a great trash-clearing weapon, second only to boosted Excalibur in per-hit damage. Of course, it still has a low combo rate, and even without a damage cap, it can't quite compete. It's not TOO far behind, but then again, it's also not TOO much ahead of Holy Lance + White Robes. And yes, it's available stupidly late for how middling it is.

I really liked Tournesol in the original, even got it before going to Arcades a few times. Damn fine weapon. The nerf to its combo rate in TZA makes me sad, though.

Practically speaking though, when you completed Wraithwall in the original, a full set of Deathbringers were functionally more useful than the Zodiac Spear, and a hell of a lot easier to obtain. At that point in the game, Deathbringer was generally still a one-hit-kill (and had KO chance when it didn't), and let you use a shield, making your more survivable for all the other "optional" areas at that point for powering up, so it was always my first investment in breaking the game.

So yes, I agree, the Zodiac Spear was never really great in the original, in fact, I often ended up not bothering with it at all, and in the end, only used it to slap on characters I had neglected (like Fran or Penelo) if I wanted to do something other than Sleepga->Curaja Abysteels, since the spear was strong enough that level didn't really stop you from killing things with melee.

[The High Seraph]

i finally got a spear ! not from this sh*t hunt club , not from 1% henne mine chest . from Biding Mantis in trial mode 62 . trial mode way is much easier i think