Seitengrat Bow without cheating programs

[Leonhart]

I need to get the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Seitengrat Bow since I'm a complecionist. The issue here is that, from what I saw, the RNG on the PC version is different from the PS4 version. I really don't wanna use things like Cheat Engine and etc. So, has anyone gotten the Bow or have 100% method of obtaining it?

[The Guy]

You need the item which let's you get better items from chests. Next go onto any airship, and fortunately, autosaves are your friend. When you go onto the outside deck, check the chest spot. Repeat this until you have the item. Remember that this will take a long time because of it's low chances.

[Melodia]

If you want to do it without something that modifies, there's a program to read the RNG which can let you get it by knowing the correct time to enter to spawn the chest and the correct time to pick the chest up.

Getting it 'legitl;y' is an extreme low chance. It's literally 1/10000 every time you load the zone (I don't believe you need an autosave given you can just zone in and out, and loading resets the RNG so you can't save the state of having the chest or anything like you can with enemy spawns).

And really, the bow is hardly the only thing that requires a lot of luck, just the most. You'd be spending many, many, MANY hours just trying for chests and drops (and to a lesser extend steals) of quite a number of items. For starters, the Gendame has a 1/2500 chance. The Mirage Vest a 1/500 unless you steal from one of two one time enemies. The Bonebreaker you have a 1/100 chance unless you get a very rare drop from OMEGA. Zodiac Escutcheon and Zodiac Spear are also 1/100 (unless you get them from the Hunt Club).

I mean, you can do it, you do you. Just know what you're getting into.

[Hinnyuu]

Getting it legit will consume hours and hours of your life.

If you want the achievement of rezoning 5,000 times to get it, that's what you'll have to do. There is no trick to it, just hitting it until you get the chest to spawn. Everything else relies on effective cheating, either by abusing the internal RNG system by manipulating memory values through game actions, or by using a software tool.

[Leonhart]

Originally posted by Melodia:

If you want to do it without something that modifies, there's a program to read the RNG which can let you get it by knowing the correct time to enter to spawn the chest and the correct time to pick the chest up.

Getting it 'legitl;y' is an extreme low chance. It's literally 1/10000 every time you load the zone (I don't believe you need an autosave given you can just zone in and out, and loading resets the RNG so you can't save the state of having the chest or anything like you can with enemy spawns).

And really, the bow is hardly the only thing that requires a lot of luck, just the most. You'd be spending many, many, MANY hours just trying for chests and drops (and to a lesser extend steals) of quite a number of items. For starters, the Gendame has a 1/2500 chance. The Mirage Vest a 1/500 unless you steal from one of two one time enemies. The Bonebreaker you have a 1/100 chance unless you get a very rare drop from OMEGA. Zodiac Escutcheon and Zodiac Spear are also 1/100 (unless you get them from the Hunt Club).

I mean, you can do it, you do you. Just know what you're getting into.

So what program is this? And how exactly does it work? I just want Seitengrat for complecionist issues. I think I'll use this to get Gendarme and Trango Tower as well.

[Soda Sip]

Either this
https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasyXII/comments/806nmo/rng_helper_app_for_pc_version/

or this
https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasyXII/comments/83d7rn/yet_another_ff12_rng_helper_for_pc/

They both have explanation on how to use them. If you have never done this before, back in the ps2 times, the second one is probably easier to use.

[Melodia]

Yes, the first one is effectively a worse verion of the second one (though it appparently lets you set your own RNG into it, I've never tried this but going that far is effectively like using cheat engine)

[Assapoopshits Massachusetts]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Getting it legit will consume hours and hours of your life.

If you want the achievement of rezoning 5,000 times to get it, that's what you'll have to do. There is no trick to it, just hitting it until you get the chest to spawn. Everything else relies on effective cheating, either by abusing the internal RNG system by manipulating memory values through game actions, or by using a software tool.

Let me make you sad by letting you know that there's only about a 39.35% chance of getting the bow after rezoning 5000 times if it spawns 1/10000 of the time