Ribbon steal in trials working?

[Zorus]

Has it been patched? I have the gloves, and I'm on attempt 124, high ether every time.

[Zorus]

...lied, I've had 4 elixirs. But this is making me not want to play anymore. Anyone know if it's still possible?

[Hinnyuu]

RNG is RNG. I've hit the hole a few times, too.

[Zorus]

Ok, just checking. Might not be worth my misery at this point, but as long as you're sure it's still a thing, maybe i'll come back later.

[Zorus]

Does it matter which character I use?

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Zorus:

Does it matter which character I use?

Not in any way. Stealing is governed entirely by chance, and it's always the same regardless of levels, stats, or characters. The only thing that influences it is whether you're using Thief's Cuffs (and you should).

[Zorus]

Thanks. I did 30 more tonight with no luck. Seems disproportionate, but I appreciate the answers.

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Zorus:

Thanks. I did 30 more tonight with no luck. Seems disproportionate, but I appreciate the answers.

It happens. I've spent hours with my good friend Salamand Entite as well. And other times, he lasted barely five minutes. RNG will be RNG. At 3%, even 100 attempts isn't exactly a super representative sample size.

[Zorus]

It's 6% with the cuffs, and I'm at 150, but it's true, the math doesn't always work in your favor.

[Gracey Face]

Just wondering, are you like reloading an autosave from entering the area where the steal target is?

Maybe the seed is fixed or something.

[Zorus]

I thought about that but if the seed were fixed I wouldn't ever get elixirs, right?

[Zorus]

Update: I've now tried 203 times. I'm really starting to think its not RNG anymore. Is the seed locked? Is it level based? Do I need to start from trial 41 every time? Has anyone done this successfully since the last update?

[Hinnyuu]

It's EXTREMELY unlikely they would patch for balance. Heck at this point I don't even expect error/bug fixes.

Steal mechanics are the same as they have always been, and are not fixed to a save state. Zoning (once for neutral/friendly, twice for hostile mobs) or reloading will reset everything.

Are you sure you're stealing from the right mob?

[Serafie1999AD]

I got a Ribbon from Hashmal on the 11th try. Trial level 49, use Thief's Cuffs to steal from Hashmal. If you don't get it, return to the Title Menu and load the Quicksave to get back to phase 49, so you don't need to fight through phases 41-48 again.

[Zorus]

Originally posted by Serafie1999AD:

I got a Ribbon from Hashmal on the 11th try. Trial level 49, use Thief's Cuffs to steal from Hashmal. If you don't get it, return to the Title Menu and load the Quicksave to get back to phase 49, so you don't need to fight through phases 41-48 again.

I'm doing exactly this. I'm using Fran as my thief, but not as my tank/pov character. This is how I'm able to do so many in such a short time. I've gotten REALLY good at reloading it.

[Zorus]

Update: after 233 tries, I went back to level 41 again. After re-gaining level 49, I got it on the third try. I think my save might have been bugged.