Are the late game optional espers harder than the final boss? *no spoilers please*

[Soulmancer]

If I hunt down all the optional espers first am I going to just steam roll over the final boss? Or are they all considered easier/lower level and should be knocked off before I beat the game?

[ChaosBahamut]

Oh yeah, late/'post' game optional espers will steamroll the final boss in terms of difficulty.

The last esper in particular's pretty much qualified to be a superboss imo. (he may lack the massive HP count that superbosses tend to have, but he more than makes up for that with his attacks)

[Soulmancer]

Uh, so how about just Exodus and Zeromus? Then save Ultima, Chaos and Zodiark for after... is that a more appropriate curve?

[Inssengrimm]

Exodus and Zeromus are a cake.

Ultima is more annoying to reach than anything else. Same for Chaos tho he packs a more of a punch.

Zodiark... In the original i obliterated him at level 55 within 3 minutes without a quickening chain. I cannot wait to see how will it go this time.

[Hinnyuu]

Adrammelech =< Zalera < Exodus < Cuchulainn =< Zeromus < Ultima < Chaos < Zodiark

Only Zodiark is even remotely difficult, though I suppose people can struggle with Chaos if they don't know what to do. Ultima is a major pain to get to, but just keels over like nothing to the right setup because of her elemental weakness. All the others are easily defeated even before you are lvl 30.

[Davoodinator]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Adrammelech =< Zalera < Exodus < Cuchulainn =< Zeromus < Ultima < Chaos < Zodiark

Only Zodiark is even remotely difficult, though I suppose people can struggle with Chaos if they don't know what to do. Ultima is a major pain to get to, but just keels over like nothing to the right setup because of her elemental weakness. All the others are easily defeated even before you are lvl 30.

cuchulain is giving me a headache atm

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Davoodinator:

cuchulain is giving me a headache atm

Heal, heal, heal. If your level/gear are low, run double healer + decoy tank and whittle him down slowly. Black Belts on everyone, of course. At higher levels, one healer spamming Cura should do.

[Soulmancer]

cuchulain is a pushover if you equip 3 black belts.

[serPomiz]

the various non story esper works around gimmicks more than they should, aside from Zodiark. you get a counter-tactic going, you steamroll them pretty much every time

the problem is that they were developed for fighting against "all around" team from the original version, no amount of value tweaking can change that

[arenaynieve]

Originally posted by Soulmancer:

cuchulain is a pushover if you equip 3 black belts.

Oh I actually thought 3 x2 Hp Belts would do the trick.... Mmmm...maybe not :D

[arenaynieve]

What pisses me off is the puzzle to get to Chuchulain. Believe it or not, these kind of riddles are my weakness. Spoil me the sequence to get to Chuchulain please xd

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by arenaynieve:

What pisses me off is the puzzle to get to Chuchulain. Believe it or not, these kind of riddles are my weakness. Spoil me the sequence to get to Chuchulain please xd

It's much easier than it looks.

You need the sluice gate key from the White Mousse hunt.

1. Light up No. 3 and No. 10
2. Move into No. 10 Channel and then into No. 3 Cloaca Spur. At the end of it, there's a switch for No. 1 South Waterway. Activate it, and go back to the control room.
3. Turn off No. 3 and No. 10, and light up No. 4 and No. 11
4. Move into No. 11 Channel and then into No. 4 Cloaca Spur. At the end of it, there's a switch for No. 1 North Waterway. Activate it, and go back to the control room.
5. Have No. 10 and No. 11 deactivated, and No. 3 and No. 4 lit up
6. Move straight south into the No. 1 Cloaca, the boss is fought in the room down the end there.

The extra adds that spawn with the boss can be fought again in the same place after it's defeated, if you so wish (they drop Silver Liquid and have Sagittarius Gems to steal, both of which are used in high-end recipes).

[ᴛᴀʟᴜ 🐦]

Originally posted by Davoodinator:

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Adrammelech =< Zalera < Exodus < Cuchulainn =< Zeromus < Ultima < Chaos < Zodiark

Only Zodiark is even remotely difficult, though I suppose people can struggle with Chaos if they don't know what to do. Ultima is a major pain to get to, but just keels over like nothing to the right setup because of her elemental weakness. All the others are easily defeated even before you are lvl 30.

cuchulain is giving me a headache atm

Use Espers, put a bubble on the user of the esper and you can keep hitting the Cuchulainn without much worry. Your esper will keep healing you.

[Davoodinator]

i ended up just destroying him wiht 3 quickening chains

[E|E]

Chaos, Ultima and Zodiark are higher level than the story final boss, naturally they will be stronger than it. If you fight them at around their level, it will definitely be a challenge.

Chaos battle disable auto attack and you have to rely on magicks. Hopefully you have more than 1 dps mage to make the fight go faster. His sidekicks silences u too.

Ultima has aoe heavy burst holy damage that can wipe out your whole team if you dont have the right gears or if you did not overgrind your levels. She also alternates among HP sap, MP sap, no attack,no magic, no item, magnetic field etc

Lastly Zodiark can be pain in the ass but i'll just let you figure out how the last one yourself.

[Purplefairy22]

Ultima is kicking my ass atm.

Got nothing to defend against Holyja.
i've got 0 Phoenix downs.
i then burn my reserve characters with revive technick.

I may have to turn around and come back later