It is not "Mar-kwis" and other mispronunciations

[trhoffend]

The word "Marquis" is French. It is pronounced "Mar-key" not "Mar-kwis". Did no voice actor point this out to their director? I forgot how annoying this is.

Anyone find other mispronunciations? I noticed some others but didn't note them. Marquis is used many times.

[Scheneighnay]

Final Fantasy is usually inconsistent with pronounciations, sometimes even within the same game. Though Final Fantasy Type 0 is probably the worst offender because no 2 voice actors seem to pronounce "Kurasame" the same.

Another one is that Bahamut is pronounced differently across every game.

[Rhyagelle]

This is a setting unlike our word. They may be just barrowing the spelling and changing the pronunction. I mean....Ivalice isn't Earth. There are no French people.

[ejh1990]

Originally posted by trhoffend:

The word "Marquis" is French. It is pronounced "Mar-key" not "Mar-kwis". Did no voice actor point this out to their director? I forgot how annoying this is.

Anyone find other mispronunciations? I noticed some others but didn't note them. Marquis is used many times.

We pronounce it mar-kwiss here in the UK (but then, we spell it Marquess).

I think it was a deliberate stylistic choice. A bit like how all of the nouns are capitalised in Ondore's memoirs.

[Gus the Crocodile]

I'm in Australia and I've only ever known it to be mar-kee, so yeah, this felt weird to me. But reading around now, there seem to be a fair few people around the world for who this pronunciation is normal (some only for the spelling marquess, some for both). Can't please everyone, I guess.

[FuzedBox]

It can actually be pronounced either way. "-kwĭs" is an obscure and archaic way to pronounce it, and it sounds pretty stupid, but it's not incorrect.

At least the game is consistent with it.

[Dex]

It's almost like people from different regions pronounce things differently. huh..

[xmoses8080]

Marquis can either be pronounced Mar-kwiss or Mar-key How do you want us to say Omisace? O-mi-says or O-mi-sa-chi lmao

[Vomit Heart]

wouldnt it be **** if we all talked the same

[Vayne]

There arent any french folks over in Ivalice.

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by xmoses8080:

Marquis can either be pronounced Mar-kwiss or Mar-key How do you want us to say Omisace? O-mi-says or O-mi-sa-chi lmao :calm_creep:

Luckily for that we have the Japanese version, which uses entirely phonetic transcription for made-up words like that. That's how we know Omisace is pronounced [O'-mee's-ayce]

Doesn't work for the Marquis unfortunately since there's an actual Japanese term for it (rather than a loanword, as in English). Still, the pronunciation, like the English VA's accents, is an aesthetic choice. There's nothing distinguishing the Archadeans by their accent in the Japanese original - which explains the lack of reaction from people to Balthier or Larsa or whoever else is an Archadean but doesn't immediately make it known. I guess anything Imperial is British?

Al-Cid is also a special case, as he DOES talk funny in Japanese but it's more of a very peculiar way of speaking that over-emphasizes and dramatizes every word he says rather than a foreign accent. Since he's the only Rozarrian with a speaking role in the game we have no comparison but the Japanese at least doesn't sound like it's a national accent, just Al-Cid's flamboyance.

Fran, of course, also doesn't have an accent in the original (nor do the other Viera). In fact, she speaks very elegantly.

Just goes to show how many aesthetic choices are made by translators and localization teams!

[FuzedBox]

Indeed, the localization was well done. Archadian gentry -> Formal British, Archadian lower classes/soldiers -> Cockney British, same applies toward Dalmascan classes with American accents, Bhujerban's get a Sri-Lankan accent, Vierra get Scandinavian, and not really sure what al-Cid's is.

[Gabby]

Yeah... to be fair, this is Ivalice, not Earth. Assuming that things have to be pronounced in a way a culture that doesn't exist on that world does it is a bit... well... overly meta?

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by trhoffend:

The word "Marquis" is French. It is pronounced "Mar-key" not "Mar-kwis". Did no voice actor point this out to their director? I forgot how annoying this is.

Anyone find other mispronunciations? I noticed some others but didn't note them. Marquis is used many times.

In English, the pronunciation "Mar-key" is the word Marquee and is a type of tent..

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by FuzedBox:

Indeed, the localization was well done.

Debatable whether such typecasting is a good thing, imo. Stereotyping people like that isn't good storytelling to me, especially if it's not present in the original and has story implications (like the aforementioned fact anyone should be able to tell Balthier or Larsa are from the Empire as soon as they open their mouths, yet everyone is surprised when they find out).

I'm also not a friend of putting random accents on people just to mark them more "foreign". Why the need to draw those us/them lines so strongly? And arbitrarily, I guess, considering Basch is ALSO a "foreigner", i.e. not from Dalmasca.

[Drab]

Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:

I'm in Australia and I've only ever known it to be mar-kee, so yeah, this felt weird to me. But reading around now, there seem to be a fair few people around the world for who this pronunciation is normal (some only for the spelling marquess, some for both). Can't please everyone, I guess.

So, how do you pronounce Marquessa in Australia?