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กฎและแนวทางปฏิบัติในกระดานสนทนา
รายงานโพสต์นี้
Balthier: Bushi/Uhlan
Basch: Shikari/Foebreaker
Fran: Red Mage/Archer
Penelo: White Mage/Machinest
Vaan: Knight/Time Mage
Balthier uhlanMachanist
Fran archer/RM
Basch knight/bushi
Ashe WM/TM
Penelo monk/BM
Vaan: Shikari/Time Battlemage
Balthier: Machinist/White Mage
Fran: Archer/Black Mage
Basch: Bushi/Red Mage
Ashe: Knight/Foebreaker
Penelo: Monk/Uhlan
Sub-optimal, but I really don't want to fret about min-maxing too much, as that's usually what keeps me from finishing otherwise perfectly enjoyable games.
Vaan: Shikari/Bushi
Penelo: White Mage/Uhlan
Basch: Knight/Time Battlemage
Balthier: Machinist/Foebreaker
Fran: Archer/Red Battlemage
Ashe: Black Mage/Monk
Main party:
Balthier: White Mage/Archer
Ashe: Knight/Black mage
Fran: Red battlemage/machinist
Replacements/2nd group
Basch: Forbreaker/Bushi
Vaan: Shikari/Uhlan
Penelo: Time battlemage/monk
Ashe: Monk/TM
Fran: Machinist/Foebreaker
Penelo: Archer/RM
Guy:
benched
Balthier: Machinist/monk
Fran: time mage/ uhlan
Basch: Bushi/knight
Ashe: white mage/archer
Penelo: black mage/ red mage
Dunno what im doing, but don't really care, game still fun to play with this setup.
Vaan: SHI/FOE.
Penelo: MNK/BLM.
Balthier: ULH/MCH.
Fran: ACH/RBM.
Basch: KNT/BSH.
Ashe: WHM/TBM.
I don't know who the hell told you THAT was lore-friendly at all, it would need some incredible explaining to do.
- Vaan in all of his iterations is not a Shikari despite wielding a dagger at the start, he has always been depicted wielding a sword in promos for the game and every other game that he has appeared in, and his admiration of his brother being a Knight to begin with. He is poor, so he wouldn't have access to a sword regardless. In all other games that follows Vaan is closer to a Breaker than anything and a Knight second; due to wielding Swords and stealing stats and debuffing.
- Balthier is anyway it goes, a Machinist is obvious due to his history in general and what he is shown wearing. The secondary class can be anything in this case but if the sequel is of any interpretation then any class that gives him damage bonuses and Focus/Adrenalin and so on. White Mage is picked with Machinist specifically because it just meshes so well with Famfrit and using the best out of a class that only shines its explosive damage much later on(If one had picked say Monk or any other class with battle lores and huge damage bonuses); with a weapon that doesn't require a lot of stats to begin with such as Guns.
- Fran is and always will be a Red Mage, her race in the Ivalice games are the only ones who can be Red Mages and she even starts with the -first spells- that a Red Mage doesn't in both White and Black magic. Archer is an obvious here too, also due to them having added the Fire Bow specifically to be combo'd with Ardor that Red Mages get for fire damage boost. Further proving this point.
- Basch can go any one way depending on how you look at it, Archer/Knight before his capture, Monk/Bushi Bushi/Knight after his capture, and a Breaker/Uhlan/Knight for the sequel.
- Ashe will always wear a sword in a perfect world, and in the sequel and all other subsequent games she has been in shows her wielding the Treaty Blade (A greatsword) and being a TIMEMAGE. Treaty Blade does not have a license, but if one would like to one could consider her to be a Knight. Timemage already gets licenses for Greatswords but those are usually wasted if you use an Esper for it, but considering she is shown as a Timemage, that class goes to her without any hesitation.
- Penelo will always be a Monk, even though Monks don't use Staves, a Pole is very close to it and no other class is close to this interpretation of a 'Dancer' class since Monks have access to White Magic as well (Reasoning being that Monks move and dance while fighting, so to speak): Which is what she is (check her attack animations, which are all very dancey to begin with). People just pair Monk/Blackmage with her due to this combo being excessively good and giving a great array of White magic on top of great stats that Blackmage lacks. If one were to go 'pure' lore it would be closer to Monk/Whitemage due to the absence of a Dancer class.
Or just straight up a Whitemage really if one wants to be completely pure, it has White Magick, Staves and no dancing really.
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If one were to use all classes once then the regular pairing that people use up most of the time as "lorefriendly" as possible is just:
Vaan: Shikari/Foebreaker
Balthier: Machinist/Whitemage
Fran: Archer/Redmage
Basch: Knight/Bushi
Ashe: Uhlan/Timemage
Penelo: Monk/Blackmage
If one were to go FULLY lore-friendly then:
Vaan: Foebreaker/Knight
Balthier: Machinist/ - any class that boosts gun damage -
Fran: Archer/Redmage
Basch: As mentioned previously above: depends on your interpretation.
Ashe: Timemage
Penelo: Whitemage/ - Any class that makes sense to a Dancer -
Penelo: White Mage / Bushi
Ashe: Black Mage / Time Mage
Basch: Knight / Foebreaker
Balthier: Machinist / Uhlan
Fran: Archer / Red Mage
The two teams I run are Basch / Balthier / Fran + Vaan / Penelo / Ashe. For boss fights, I'll use whatever combination of them will work best.
Ashe - Shikari / Red
Fran - Knight / Bushi
Basch - Knight / White
Vaan - Black / Red
Penelo - Machinist / Breaker
Balthier - Monk / Time
The character assignments for those jobs aren't all ideal but I like their weapon stances.
Best answer.
I did the same on my playthrough despite having gone with a lore-friendly build, but I didn't care much in the end and doubled up on jobs to what I liked.
Penelo with Ninja Swords is pretty damned ninja as heck, and it gives me a reason to use her since I only like Balthier/Fran/Ashe.
Basch's fashion sense grates my nerves, its all over the place and doesn't make much sense in general and it looks fugly I gave him a supportive role despite being -the absolute best- at dealing weapon damage.
Vaan is just whatever and I hardly use him, despite being the best character.
Ashe is the worst Bushi but I like her weapon sword/greatsword/katana animations.
Heh, yeah, that's exactly why he got the Black Mage role in my current group. It's obviously a useful job but I rarely 'enjoy' using it and I'm sick of looking at Vaan. Perfect pairing for a benchwarmer.
Vaan - Uhlan/Time Mage
Penelo - Black Mage/ Monk
Balthier - Shikari/ Breaker
Fran - Hunter/ Red Mage
Bash - Knight/ Bushi
Ashe - White Mage/ Machinist
Reddas - good to keep around and do optional stuff when he joins.
Vaan, Balthier and Fran with Gambits to throw out status healing items, Ethers, Phoenix downs for whoever gets the Healer role, Potions (if needed), also steal and buff/ debuff stuff.
Bash to go Berserk and combo the living ♥♥♥♥ out of everything excpt the physical resistant ones. Penelo with 3x Channeling and 3x Swiftness + Sage Ring spam elemental weaknesses and now Scathe.
Ashe as healing and Bubble bot and every now and then a Silence or Dark shot from afar.