Game wont save

[Shila1]

Guys please help - i love this game from back in the day but save files wont stick. Ive ran steam as an admin and nothing. Windows 10 os when i save it says saved - then if i go to save again the save file does not exist. Something is preveniting it from saving - anyone else wiht this issue?

[matthew]

Create a new user account, this is a windows 10 issue, (mostly) and check any AV you are running, including windows defender, and add the save folder to the AV ignore list.

[Shila1]

i dont use AV - waste of time :D
what will creating a new user account do? other steam games dont have this issue - including ff9, x,xIII

[Seattlehockeyfan84]

Originally posted by Shila1:

i dont use AV - waste of time :D
what will creating a new user account do? other steam games dont have this issue - including ff9, x,xIII

its a ownership permission issue. You could also delete the ffxii folder in mydoucments/mygames and make it recreate it.

[matthew]

Originally posted by Shila1:

i dont use AV - waste of time :D
what will creating a new user account do? other steam games dont have this issue - including ff9, x,xIII

This is a common problem for windows 10, it seems that the folder ownership is messed up for a fair number of people, basiclly the main account your using no longer has read and write rights to the folder in question. Creating a new account restores the permissions for the folders.

While not the best workaround, it works in this case. But you have to blame MS for this, as its not a game issue, but a windows OS issue.

[matthew]

I just realised, the location of the saves are different in FF12

FFIX and X
C:\Users\username\Documents\Square Enix

FFXII
C:\Users\username\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XII THE ZODIAC AGE

Interesting, I didn't notice this until now, if they had kept to where FF9 and 10 are located, then people probably wouldn't be having as many save related issues, as the folder is different, then I suspect that the main user account is having problems writing in the My Games folder. So you should compare folders in the securty tab and see what is different.

[Shila1]

i have change the permissions on those folders so everyone has read and write access - this is stupid that for a single game you have to make a seperate profile.

[Inny【🐭】Nazrin]

Originally posted by Shila1:

i dont use AV - waste of time :D

Originally posted by Shila1:

i have change the permissions on those folders so everyone has read and write access

And this is why Windows 10 enforces User Account Controls. Because if you're using a computer used by other people, you're basically a hazard to this system.

[matthew]

Originally posted by Shila1:

i have change the permissions on those folders so everyone has read and write access - this is stupid that for a single game you have to make a seperate profile.

blame MS, its their system, it certainly seems for windows 10, they consider the average computer user IQ as that of a pea. But again, its the location of the saves that seems to be triggering the problems. as the my games folder is a windows OS folder, and windows is very protective of its OS folders.

[MancSoulja]

in the Windows search bar type in CMD and right click on the command prompt icon, run it as admin.

When the command window pops up type in

cd c:/users/username/documents/

and then

attrib -r /S *.*

This should make all files in your My Documents folder R/W again.

[Tlaluc]

or look at this : http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-security-heres-how-to-shield-your-files-from-ransomware-says-microsoft/

[matthew]

Originally posted by Tlaluc:

or look at this : http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-security-heres-how-to-shield-your-files-from-ransomware-says-microsoft/

that is interesting, could be the reason for a few issues as well, namely that the saves have no file extension, and secondly, because they are in a system protected folder, nice find.

[Lights]

Originally posted by matthew:

Originally posted by Shila1:

i have change the permissions on those folders so everyone has read and write access - this is stupid that for a single game you have to make a seperate profile.

blame MS, its their system, it certainly seems for windows 10, they consider the average computer user IQ as that of a pea. But again, its the location of the saves that seems to be triggering the problems. as the my games folder is a windows OS folder, and windows is very protective of its OS folders.

C++ Developer here- its not really something microsoft needs to fix. 99.99% of use cases have no issue writing files to the local filesystem, I find it a lot more likely the exact method used for saving game data in FF12 is just poorly implemented, rather than this being something microsoft needs to fix.

If you're developing for a platform, you need to know the quirks that it has and develop around it, not write code that only works half the time and then expect the Operating System to change when it doesn't.

Given that the config files write to the same directory, its clearly something being done specific to save files.