Denuvo = no buy

[thainen]

I've been waiting for years to play this game. I was happy to see it finally making it to Steam, and was ready to pay whatever price.
However, no matter how good the game is, it's not worth infesting your PC with malware. Denuvo is a dealbreaker. I'm making a new topic to say it, because I want the publishers to hear it. You're not hurting the pirates -- they will crack it in a couple of weeks anyway. You're driving away customers.

[Moon Punisher]

It is indeed a funny thing that by adding denuvo they drive people to the emulator to not say a certain ship and its black flag. With this said, everyone knows denuvo isnt meant to stop piracy and they dont care if it even drives it further either lols. It is there to fill a quota and make certain folk happy it exists even if only makes matters worse.

If someone trully wishes to buy this, then hope after the crack they will bother to remove it, if you dont have such high scrupules, then that wont matter and square wont get a cent anyway.

[ausername]

Just replying I bought the original for the PS2 and I would gladly buy this if it didn't have Denuvo. So you lost my sale. I've asked about other games like Endless Space 2 since they were bought up by Sega and it turns out they didn't use Denuvo so I bought that game day one.

Also the whole logic of a pirated copy is a lost sale is complete logical fallacy that runs against basic economic theory. A pirate expects a game for free so it you ask them to pay 60$ the conversion rate will be extremely low. Inversely a pirate who really likes your game may end up buying it or recommending it to friends who then buy it as well.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

引用自 Moon Punisher：

It is indeed a funny thing that by adding denuvo they drive people to the emulator to not say a certain ship and its black flag. With this said, everyone knows denuvo isnt meant to stop piracy and they dont care if it even drives it further either lols. It is there to fill a quota and make certain folk happy it exists even if only makes matters worse.

If someone trully wishes to buy this, then hope after the crack they will bother to remove it, if you dont have such high scrupules, then that wont matter and square wont a cent anyway.

I've always assumed anti-piracy software was just digital snake oil to convince publishers they could fight piracy to generate a healthy revenue stream for unscrupulous coders.

[WolfEisberg]

引用自 Ashe：

引用自 Eisberg：

I would be interested in links proving that VAC checks what sites you look at.

so you bought a denuvo game huh? what happen to your denuvo boycott?

Quote me where I said I was boycotting games with Denuvo.

[WolfEisberg]

引用自 Mass Defect：

引用自 Moon Punisher：

It is indeed a funny thing that by adding denuvo they drive people to the emulator to not say a certain ship and its black flag. With this said, everyone knows denuvo isnt meant to stop piracy and they dont care if it even drives it further either lols. It is there to fill a quota and make certain folk happy it exists even if only makes matters worse.

If someone trully wishes to buy this, then hope after the crack they will bother to remove it, if you dont have such high scrupules, then that wont matter and square wont a cent anyway.

I've always assumed anti-piracy software was just digital snake oil to convince publishers they could fight piracy to generate a healthy revenue stream for unscrupulous coders.

It really is snake oil.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

引用自 Eisberg：

引用自 Ashe：

so you bought a denuvo game huh? what happen to your denuvo boycott?

Quote me where I said I was boycotting games with Denuvo.

Right here:

引用自 Eisberg：

Anyways did you read what I said?

" I am "DRM/Denuvo = Rental = I pay what I feel is a rental price = 25% of the release price" Which means I am only paying 25% of the release price of games that use DRM, and I am patient and can wait for an authorized dealer sale or Steam sale or price drops to happen, provided I am still interested in the game when that happens.

Oh, wait. You never said that and people lack the ability to read before they vociferously espew a barrage of animated verbiage via qwerty keyboard.

[WolfEisberg]

引用自 Mass Defect：

引用自 Eisberg：

Quote me where I said I was boycotting games with Denuvo.

Right here:

引用自 Eisberg：

Anyways did you read what I said?

" I am "DRM/Denuvo = Rental = I pay what I feel is a rental price = 25% of the release price" Which means I am only paying 25% of the release price of games that use DRM, and I am patient and can wait for an authorized dealer sale or Steam sale or price drops to happen, provided I am still interested in the game when that happens.

Oh, wait. You never said that and people lack the ability to read before they vociferously espew a barrage of animated verbiage via qwerty keyboard.

lol, yup.

And if it wasn't for my wife, I wouldn't even have this game right now. I got it for $30 on Greenman Gaming, trying to convince my wife why we should wait to save $18 for a game she is super excited about is not worth it. I talked about the wife situation on these boards a few times as well before it released. Why he thought I ever said I was boycotting this game is beyond me.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

引用自 Eisberg：

lol, yup.

And if it wasn't for my wife, I wouldn't even have this game right now. I got it for $30 on Greenman Gaming, trying to convince my wife why we should wait to save $18 for a game she is super excited about is not worth it. I talked about the wife situation on these boards a few times as well before it released. Why he thought I ever said I was boycotting this game is beyond me.

Hell, my wife bought me the Steel Box Edition for roughly 85usd for Christmas. I have no issue with giving money to SE for this game, or people buying a game with Denuvo (I really don't care how other people spend their money). I was just reading some reviews and someone mentioned Denuvo, so I did a quick forum search and found this thread. So far, this thread has managed to entertain me more than actually playing a game.

As far as FFXII goes, I played it on PS2 and was pleasantly surprised when I got Zodiac Age and the job board system was vastly improved over the dumbed down PS2 version. Two thumbs up from me.

[Damian Sicarius]

I bought Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and Skyrim all on day one, and went back and got all the DLC for them too. This game I was looking forward to buying until I saw that it had Denuvo so I'll wait for some Pirate to crack it and hope that make square remove it so I can buy the game. And I am one not to buy games with Denuvo same as I will no longer buy games that go through 3rd party DRM's like UPlay.

[Lusus Symphonia]

引用自 phychosis：

I bought Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and Skyrim all on day one, and went back and got all the DLC for them too. This game I was looking forward to buying until I saw that it had Denuvo so I'll wait for some Pirate to crack it and hope that make square remove it so I can buy the game. And I am one not to buy games with Denuvo same as I will no longer buy games that go through 3rd party DRM's like UPlay.

What exactly is wrong with uplay? It offers a better achievement system, better discounts, you can use your earned points for an extra %20 off any game and the overlay doesn't force achievements on you.

It's all out better than steam, the only ones who hate origin and uplay are the people who just have OCD with keeping everything in the same place.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

引用自 phychosis：

I bought Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and Skyrim all on day one, and went back and got all the DLC for them too. This game I was looking forward to buying until I saw that it had Denuvo so I'll wait for some Pirate to crack it and hope that make square remove it so I can buy the game. And I am one not to buy games with Denuvo same as I will no longer buy games that go through 3rd party DRM's like UPlay.

IMHO, UPlay and Origin are far worse than Denuvo. I have one game on each platform and will no longer buy any game with either of those requirements.

[Damian Sicarius]

引用自 Red Monk：

引用自 phychosis：

I bought Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and Skyrim all on day one, and went back and got all the DLC for them too. This game I was looking forward to buying until I saw that it had Denuvo so I'll wait for some Pirate to crack it and hope that make square remove it so I can buy the game. And I am one not to buy games with Denuvo same as I will no longer buy games that go through 3rd party DRM's like UPlay.

What exactly is wrong with uplay? It offers a better achievement system, better discounts, you can use your earned points for an extra %20 off any game and the overlay doesn't force achievements on you.

It's all out better than steam, the only ones who hate origin and uplay are the people who just have OCD with keeping everything in the same place.

I have a bit of OCD, but that doesn't stop me from buying games off of GOG as a own just about 100 games on there. I have around 8 Origin games, and around 10 games on UPlay, and alot on here. It just that Steam itself you need to play the games no need for me to have to jump through hoops to play the games I bought. GOG there are no hoops, Steam alone very few hoops like keeping them up to date, UPlay and Origin I have had games not even work once I bought them and they are no help with fixing the issues, Denuvo is just plan Spyware.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

引用自 InfernalMudkip：

引用自 Mass Defect：

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find out Denuvo and other DRM programs encourage more and more gamers to not buy the game on release and just wait for the cracked copy just to send the middle finger salute to the developers/publishers.

There are quite a few people who would do that kind of thing just to be a rebel.

Okay, until I see that those rebellious people are making companies lose a ton of sales, I'll stick to my point. Also, to the previous guy with the Witcher 3 point, CD Projekt Red built up a lot of goodwill with that game. If you're going to use an exception to try to justify that all games should be DRM-free or free of anti-piracy methods, by all means, begin the self-fellatio now. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "PC Master Race" makes me laugh so hard when every other thread is a complaint one. Meanwhile, in console land, my little cousin's enjoying his Switch immensely, not one peep about ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ faggoty framerate or optimization or DRM.

I wasn't talking to you and this will be the last time I do. Come back when your IQ breaches 80.

[Damian Sicarius]

引用自 InfernalMudkip：

引用自 Mass Defect：

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find out Denuvo and other DRM programs encourage more and more gamers to not buy the game on release and just wait for the cracked copy just to send the middle finger salute to the developers/publishers.

There are quite a few people who would do that kind of thing just to be a rebel.

Okay, until I see that those rebellious people are making companies lose a ton of sales, I'll stick to my point. Also, to the previous guy with the Witcher 3 point, CD Projekt Red built up a lot of goodwill with that game. If you're going to use an exception to try to justify that all games should be DRM-free or free of anti-piracy methods, by all means, begin the self-fellatio now. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "PC Master Race" makes me laugh so hard when every other thread is a complaint one. Meanwhile, in console land, my little cousin's enjoying his Switch immensely, not one peep about ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ faggoty framerate or optimization or DRM.

CD Projekt Red also built up alot of goodwill with it fans by giving us the Witcher and the Witcher 2 for free on GOG if we owned older CD versions of the game, They didn't make us rebuy them.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

I enjoy talking it out with snake oil salesmen, but engaging the drunk by the bus stop is not productive in the slightest. Funny how the person who whines the most is the same one yelling about other people whining. The lack of self-awareness is astounding.