What are all the shared locations with Final Fantasy Tactics?

[Kyle G]

FFT is my favorite game in the series. I tried looking at the Final Fantasy wikia to see all the allusions, but it doesn't really list all that much. I'm pretty sure there's more than what the wikia shows.

I'm talking about similar cities, countries, dungeons, items, artifcacts, overall locations, etc. I haven't replayed FFT in a while, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. I was just thinking about Construct 8, a robot you find FFT. And yet I haven't seen a robot in my playthrough of FF12 so far. Was Bhujerba ever mentioned in FFT? You know, things like this. Please share any kind of detail.

[Razzle]

Originally posted by Sandvich of Peace:

FFT is my favorite game in the series. I tried looking at the Final Fantasy wikia to see all the allusions, but it doesn't really list all that much. I'm pretty sure there's more than what the wikia shows.

I'm talking about similar cities, countries, dungeons, items, artifcacts, overall locations, etc. I haven't replayed FFT in a while, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. I was just thinking about Construct 8, a robot you find FFT. And yet I haven't seen a robot in my playthrough of FF12 so far. Was Bhujerba ever mentioned in FFT? You know, things like this. Please share any kind of detail.

FF12 is giant prequel, FFT takes place after a few hundred years of FF12.

[Honorable_D]

Wasn't FFT Advanced the one set in Ivalice? Had the Viera and other similar races?

[Fomin]

Originally posted by Avj.Razz:

Originally posted by Sandvich of Peace:

FFT is my favorite game in the series. I tried looking at the Final Fantasy wikia to see all the allusions, but it doesn't really list all that much. I'm pretty sure there's more than what the wikia shows.

I'm talking about similar cities, countries, dungeons, items, artifcacts, overall locations, etc. I haven't replayed FFT in a while, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. I was just thinking about Construct 8, a robot you find FFT. And yet I haven't seen a robot in my playthrough of FF12 so far. Was Bhujerba ever mentioned in FFT? You know, things like this. Please share any kind of detail.

FF12 is giant prequel, FFT takes place after a few hundred years of FF12.

Yes according to cannon, after FFXII, technology moves bacwards, the social structure becomes fixed ending social mobility, everyone adopts the same (false) religion, and the world becomes primitive hell-hole... which makes everything you did in FFXII like TOTALLY worth it... lol!

[tanman500]

Originally posted by Turjav:

Originally posted by Avj.Razz:

FF12 is giant prequel, FFT takes place after a few hundred years of FF12.

Yes according to cannon, after FFXII, technology moves bacwards, the social structure becomes fixed ending social mobility, everyone adopts the same (false) religion, and the world becomes primitive hell-hole... which makes everything you did in FFXII like TOTALLY worth it... lol!

That sounds really depressing LOL.

[cowinspace]

There are no shared regions in any of the Ivalice Alliance games with the minor exception of XII: Revenant Wings which starts in Rabanastre IIRC.

Final Fantasy XII does mention Valendia from Vagrant Story and characters make appearances in various games (Vaan and Penelo in FFT A2: Grimoire of the Rift, Balthier in FFT:War of the Lions) but there is no direct connection with FFT/War of the Lions.

[Kyle G]

Originally posted by cowinspace:

There are no shared regions in any of the Ivalice Alliance games with the minor exception of XII: Revenant Wings which starts in Rabanastre IIRC.

Final Fantasy XII does mention Valendia from Vagrant Story and characters make appearances in various games (Vaan and Penelo in FFT A2: Grimoire of the Rift, Balthier in FFT:War of the Lions) but there is no direct connection with FFT/War of the Lions.

Aw man, really? That's diappointing. :(
No wonder why the wikia didn't say that much. What's the point of all these games taking place in the same country/world then? They're just alternate universes but with the same name. Would've been so cool if there was at least a somewhat vague history/storyline to these games. But the fact there's no diect connection seems anti-climatic. I was ready to get into a deep analysis and discussion about the lore, but oh well.

[Fomin]

Originally posted by iamtoxic500:

Originally posted by Turjav:

Yes according to cannon, after FFXII, technology moves bacwards, the social structure becomes fixed ending social mobility, everyone adopts the same (false) religion, and the world becomes primitive hell-hole... which makes everything you did in FFXII like TOTALLY worth it... lol!

That sounds really depressing LOL.

My point exactly. I think it actually works better to pretend that FF Tactics is the distant past of FFXII. Less depressing that way.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

Originally posted by Sandvich of Peace:

Originally posted by cowinspace:

There are no shared regions in any of the Ivalice Alliance games with the minor exception of XII: Revenant Wings which starts in Rabanastre IIRC.

Final Fantasy XII does mention Valendia from Vagrant Story and characters make appearances in various games (Vaan and Penelo in FFT A2: Grimoire of the Rift, Balthier in FFT:War of the Lions) but there is no direct connection with FFT/War of the Lions.

Aw man, really? That's diappointing. :(
No wonder why the wikia didn't say that much. What's the point of all these games taking place in the same country/world then? They're just alternate universes but with the same name. Would've been so cool if there was at least a somewhat vague history/storyline to these games. But the fact there's no diect connection seems anti-climatic. I was ready to get into a deep analysis and discussion about the lore, but oh well.

They are the same world, but different nations. It would be like having a game set in Europe and another set in Asia, then wondering why there are no shared locations.

[Kyle G]

Originally posted by Pet Goat:

Originally posted by Sandvich of Peace:

Aw man, really? That's diappointing. :(
No wonder why the wikia didn't say that much. What's the point of all these games taking place in the same country/world then? They're just alternate universes but with the same name. Would've been so cool if there was at least a somewhat vague history/storyline to these games. But the fact there's no diect connection seems anti-climatic. I was ready to get into a deep analysis and discussion about the lore, but oh well.

They are the same world, but different nations. It would be like having a game set in Europe and another set in Asia, then wondering why there are no shared locations.

Ah, okay. That makes alot of sense.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

Originally posted by Sandvich of Peace:

Originally posted by Pet Goat:

They are the same world, but different nations. It would be like having a game set in Europe and another set in Asia, then wondering why there are no shared locations.

Ah, okay. That makes alot of sense.

Well, you could always start speculating why the Lucavi from FFT are the Espers from FFXII and whether or not the lineage of the dynast king were being used as puppets by the espers to overthrow the Occuria.

Who knows?

[GatoMancer]

According to FF XIV, Rabanastre was built on top of Lesalia hundreds of years after.

[Nemo, Forevermore]

Originally posted by DarkWatcher:

According to FF XIV, Rabanastre was built on top of Lesalia hundreds of years after.

Interesting. Though the other users claim Rabanastre predates Lesalia by hundreds of years.

[GatoMancer]

well ff xiv also mix and matches every game of the series into itself in some way, so take that with a pinch of salt.

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Pet Goat:

Originally posted by DarkWatcher:

According to FF XIV, Rabanastre was built on top of Lesalia hundreds of years after.

Interesting. Though the other users claim Rabanastre predates Lesalia by hundreds of years.

This is a great and informative post from the XIV forums.

It's pretty much confirmed now that Ivalice is part of Hydaelyn as seen in the raid. The Ivalice of WotL is the same Ivalice in FFXIV. The only thing that's somewhat questionable is if it's he same Ivalice of FFXII or not, but given the fact that Ba'gamnan is alive and well in a period that would presumably take place centuries, if not millennia, after XII, then it's safe to assume that XII and it's canon are no longer the same canon as War of the Lion's Ivalice. There's also the fact that Lesalia, the center of power in Ivalice circa War of the Lions, is built BELOW Rabanastre, a city that according to the timeline prior to XIV, takes place thousands of years BEFORE War of the Lions, and that's ignoring that Dalmasca wasn't even in the same part of Ivalice that War of the Lions took place in.

Keep in mind this is all pretty much going off the little plot we get in the Raid's conclusion, but it's pretty well spelled out that the Ivalice of War of the Lions exists in the world of Hydaelyn, and the calamity that is spoken of in the game that wiped out the Moogles and Viera in that timeline is likely one of the Umbral Calamties that is mentioned of in Eorzea's history.

[GatoMancer]

The Zodiac Brave story (the original name before the War of the Lions update) is linked to Ivalice, and in the raid's current story pause Ba'Gamnan has a zodiac stone.

Also it wasn't 'so much built below Rabanastre as Rabanastre was built on top of it as a seat of Dalmasca's authority was always at that location. Ramza's father believed there was more to the location than historic reference, hence finding very ancient Lesalia beneath it.

(note: the Ramza of the FF XIV story link is NOT the same Ramza from FFT just named after him, in case anyone got lost on the reference)

also noted on a reddit thread a little fact i forgot about, but in the Summoner job quests an Ascian actually references and/or assists in summoning Belias or Belias-Egi calling it an "elder primal".

also fun fact: FF XIV uses the same aggro and targeting pointers (though improved) that FF XII uses.