A possible sequel in the works

[ichimanju]

If we all pitch in and speak up, the developers say they will return to Ivalice.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-final-fantasy-xii-team-will-consider-another-ivalice-game-with-the-right-feedback

[Goblin King Jareth]

I'd love this, frankly Ivalice and Zodiac Age Gambits + LIcense board are both my favorite FF setting and system to date. If they made it 10x more difficult and added more conditionals for Gambits it'd be the best JRPG on the market and fit to carry the true FF torch into the future.

[Xecil]

FFXIV introduced Rabanastre as a raid, many years after the events of FFT. Lorewise, they are making the Ivalice area a continent, rather than a world. They are setting up the Garlean Empire to have been built over Ivalice.

[dave4985]

引用自 Xecil：

FFXIV introduced Rabanastre as a raid, many years after the events of FFT. Lorewise, they are making the Ivalice area a continent, rather than a world. They are setting up the Garlean Empire to have been built over Ivalice.

Sorry, but one of the devs came out and said that 12 and 14 aren't the same world, just have some places with similar names and designs.

[tanman500]

引用自 Goblin King Jareth：

I'd love this, frankly Ivalice and Zodiac Age Gambits + LIcense board are both my favorite FF setting and system to date. If they made it 10x more difficult and added more conditionals for Gambits it'd be the best JRPG on the market and fit to carry the true FF torch into the future.

I agree! I would love a FF game to feature Balthier as the main character. You can drive his air ship wherever you please. Perhaps Balthier can truely be a sky pirate this time, rather than a puppet that follows a teenager around.

[Fomin]

引用自 iamtoxic500：

引用自 Goblin King Jareth：

I'd love this, frankly Ivalice and Zodiac Age Gambits + LIcense board are both my favorite FF setting and system to date. If they made it 10x more difficult and added more conditionals for Gambits it'd be the best JRPG on the market and fit to carry the true FF torch into the future.

I agree! I would love a FF game to feature Balthier as the main character. You can drive his air ship wherever you please. Perhaps Balthier can truely be a sky pirate this time, rather than a puppet that follows a teenager around.

I'd be on board with that if they added Mass Effect style romance options.

[ichimanju]

There was a cancelled sort of sequel called Fortress. That had a romance with Ashe and Basch, also with Ashe leaving Basch for a grown up Larsa . . .

[Fomin]

引用自 ichimanju：

There was a cancelled sort of sequel called Fortress. That had a romance with Ashe and Basch, also with Ashe leaving Basch for a grown up Larsa . . .

Princess entitled jerk always disgusted me. If they were to give romance options I'd like to see them with new made up characters.

[Xecil]

引用自 dave4985：

引用自 Xecil：

FFXIV introduced Rabanastre as a raid, many years after the events of FFT. Lorewise, they are making the Ivalice area a continent, rather than a world. They are setting up the Garlean Empire to have been built over Ivalice.

Sorry, but one of the devs came out and said that 12 and 14 aren't the same world, just have some places with similar names and designs.

So another checkmark in the hollow fanservice catering in FFXIV, eh? 2.0 started off so well.

[GatoMancer]

引用自 Xecil：

引用自 dave4985：

Sorry, but one of the devs came out and said that 12 and 14 aren't the same world, just have some places with similar names and designs.

So another checkmark in the hollow fanservice catering in FFXIV, eh? 2.0 started off so well.

There are numerous references to Hydaelyn (the world of FF XIV) and Ivalice having a connection even before the Stormblood expansion which added Rabanastre as raid.

[BlackSilver]

They could use Kingdom Heart's battle system, FFXII's and KH's battle system are actually quite similar, only KH is more action based than the turned based system of FFXII. Combat can get repetitive sometimes. Maybe if they expand the 'Technicks' abilities and improve them with their own animation and combo system, maybe the combat wouldn't be as boring as an auto-attack grind, like what most RPGs often end up with during the later stages of the game.

[dave4985]

引用自 Turjav：

引用自 ichimanju：

There was a cancelled sort of sequel called Fortress. That had a romance with Ashe and Basch, also with Ashe leaving Basch for a grown up Larsa . . .

Princess entitled jerk always disgusted me. If they were to give romance options I'd like to see them with new made up characters.

I went and looked Fortress up. The story synopsis for it on the relevent FFWiki page was so stupid I'm really glad they didn't actually go through with it. I don't blame the characters, I blame the writers who tried to push ahead with that dribble and call it a plot.

[Hinnyuu]

引用自 dave4985：

I went and looked Fortress up. The story synopsis for it on the relevent FFWiki page was so stupid I'm really glad they didn't actually go through with it. I don't blame the characters, I blame the writers who tried to push ahead with that dribble and call it a plot.

To be fair, it was still in the concept phase. It's not uncommon at all for everything to be quite terrible at that stage. There's some background info on finished games, and how they looked early in the development cycle - often very different, and much much worse.

[ichimanju]

After finishing FF12, I can see some of these character interactions . . . definitely the Ashe/Basch/Larsa romance triangle. I detected in the game that Larsa liked Ashe a lot, but was about 5 years younger, but like Anakin in Star Wars, has only to grow up. He's already a man in his brain.
Basch on the other hand is tragic, protects her and loves her unconditionally . . . what a mix, so that part of the story made sense in Fortress.

The being tied down to one location sucks though and hopefully if they makes a sequel, we can roam Ivalice in freedom, like the world map in FF15.

[Hinnyuu]

Honestly, to me the absence of any kind of romance was quite refreshing. Even the one actual couple didn't make a big deal out of it, and Ashe has other things to worry about (and is, after all, a widow already).

Larsa isn't interested in romance either. He certainly likes Penelo and has respect for Ashe, but I never got anything else from him. Maybe because he's quite the politician despite his age, and knows how to put larger concerns ahead of personal feelings. I suppose that after his coronation a political marriage with Ashe could be considered, but if he's got a crush on anyone it's clearly Penelo. And even that is more innocent friendship than actual romance. He's a kid.

With Basch, it's loyalty more than love. He cares for Ashe not like a lover, but like a father - she's his responsibility, after failing to protect her father and husband both. He also doesn't have any qualms leaving her side after XII, as he's taken over his brother's identity in RW to protect Larsa. Ever the loyal dog.

Balthier of course plays the suave charmer, but it's pretty clear he's trapped tightly in the bunny's clutches. No escape for this one.

Vaan is similarly henpecked, and clearly will never have a say in how his relationship with Penelo goes. Not that he shows any sort of romantic affection for Ashe even in the slightest. In fact he's quite disrespectful towards her and treats her like just another buddy (this is mostly lost in translation, but quite clear in the Japanese dialogue). His concern is more for Dalmasca than for his queen.

The only one with ACTUAL advances is in fact Al-Cid, who's generally very open about his intentions and invitations. Though of course this could all be part of a persona, he's much smarter than he lets on (some nuances of which I feel are also lost a bit in the translation).

Anyway, I think it's great that FFXII has a story WITHOUT any sort of romance (if you discount the lovey-dovey marriage thing in flashbacks). Ashe is definitely a better character for it, and the story as a whole works much better with people focusing on politics and morality rather than personal emotions. I'm not sure a sequel that went 180 on this and suddenly became about a love triangle would have worked out - and that's so easy to recognize I don't think it ever would have gone past the planning stage. There's a reason the project was canned, after all.

[Fomin]

I think the lack of real romance in FFXII was similar to the lack of real romance in the Star Wars prequels. The general absence of human feelings in a story which seemed entirely dependent of its name to succeed. When you comapre FFXII to the game's that came before, you come to realize what a gaping hole was left in the company when Hironobu Sakaguchi left.