FF12 veterans will remember the Zodiac Spear chests.

[Comguitoz]

"This stuff is gone. You can open any chests you like – it won’t damage your chances of getting your hands on the Zodiac Spear."

yey? Now its way harder to get!

[Sh1nRa358]

Dragon Whisker L > Zodiac Spear

[Scarlet Crusade]

Messaggio originale di Sh1nRa358:

Dragon Whisker L > Zodiac Spear

Debatable, Vrsabha (Dragon Whisker L) has better combo potential and much more evade, but does less damage per hit. If you get a lot of combos, it's definitely better, but if you roll unlucky and don't get so many, then Zodiac Spear would still be better. If you're using Berserk/Adrenaline/Genji Gloves, they're both going to combo often enough, Zodiac Spear still wins, usually.

[Sh1nRa358]

"does less damage per hit"

Not by much. Only by a few points stat wise which makes dwl better.


zs - 141 atk, 8 evd, cmb 4%, knockback 10
dwl - 108 atk, 40 evd, cmb 10%, knockback 10, status effect 50% disable

Some stats from attack are put into evade as well as combo rate being higher AND it gives the DISABLED status effect. Clearly better than zs.

[Scarlet Crusade]

Zodiac Spear also does Disable, but at 20% chance. I call them almost equal, theoretically, but Vrsabha usually wins.

[Regulator XIII]

Zodiac Spear no longer the most powerful im just happy about Dustia farming still when I thought it was an expolit years ago

[Scarlet Crusade]

It is still the most -powerful-, though arguably not the most -useful-.

And Dustia farming is still an exploit but they didn't fix it.

[Sh1nRa358]

zodiac never did disable on the original and original international ps2 games. must be something new for the ps4 and steam versions.

[dragonsyn]

Messaggio originale di Korkrag:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-18-final-fantasy-12-the-zodiac-age-zodiac-spear-location-hunt-club-and-how-to-get-the-new-zodiac-spear-4112
Shouldn't be a problem. My favourite bit about the spear was getting it really early game and becoming an absolute power house. But I don't mind. If it's buyable from the hunt club then I don't have to run henne mines a few million times to get another. ^_^

Fortunately, FF12 was pretty enjoyable to grind in. For me at least. (Ever play a game with just Vaan? Can't really progress far, but it's basically like twinking in WoW.)

Funny you should say that. One of my favorite things to do was run Vaan to the Nalbina Fortress as soon as possible, (I think you could do it even before meeting Penelo in Giza Plains), buying an Iron Sword and wrecking for quite a bit. I think it was viable until you came out of the Barheim passage with Basch, Fran and Balthier, maybe further.

[Scarlet Crusade]

Messaggio originale di Sh1nRa358:

zodiac never did disable on the original and original international ps2 games. must be something new for the ps4 and steam versions.

Original, no, but it's always done it in IZJS, check again.

[YamiJustin]

The Seitengrat superbow and the Great Trango sword are the new insanely powerful weapons (as is the Gendarme super armor). With the exception of Great Trango, the other 2 pieces of equipment are almost impossible to get. People only get them through cheating/RNG manipulation.

With the removal of the damage limit and the ease to get great gear via Trial Mode, it's nowhere near as hard to get high-end weapons as it once was. Also Zodiac Spear got a small nerf.

[Comguitoz]

I dont even know half of the stuff you guys are talking about

[Scarlet Crusade]

Messaggio originale di Comguitoz:

I dont even know half of the stuff you guys are talking about

Try reading this: https://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/939426-final-fantasy-xii-international-zodiac-job-system/faqs/49691

Though be aware while most of this is correct, some things have been renamed and there are some new additions like 2x/4x speed, removal of spell queueing, remastered and original soundtracks, for example, because this was written for the IZJS version, which is what TZA was based on.

[Comguitoz]

Ok thanks mate!

[nana77]

*whisperwhisperSeitengratwhisperwhisper*
*shudder*