50 GB?

[Slevin]

The orginal could not have been more than 10, why 50?

[Scarlet Crusade]

Both English and Japanese audio for voice tracks, three complete soundtrack variants, fully uncompressed files for highest quality, all that sort of thing adds up.

[The Last Hope]

my poor hard drive

[Epic_Caesura]

Could be worse. XV is over 100.

[Aerith]

Get a job and buy new hard drive

[Rhyagelle]

It is overestimation as to prevent people with 30gb systems (however unlikely it is) from downloading a 12gb game and have basically no space left.

[RedLion7420]

Originally posted by Rose:

Get a job and buy new hard drive

Asinine request. I have a job. I have two good hard drives ( 512 GB SSD and 1TB SSHD ). I find the 50 GB size ridiculous, especially for a remaster of a game that do not take more than 4 GB on the original PS2 DVD.

It's also not only a question of HD space. it's also a question of internet bandwidth spent for downloading this.

[Scarlet Crusade]

Originally posted by Rhyagelle:

It is overestimation as to prevent people with 30gb systems (however unlikely it is) from downloading a 12gb game and have basically no space left.

It's actually 50GB on PS4. Probably not an overestimation.

[Epic_Caesura]

Originally posted by RedLion7420:

I find the 50 GB size ridiculous, especially for a remaster of a game that do not take more than 4 GB on the original PS2 DVD.

What part of "HD remaster" is unclear to you? The large majority of a game's size is its media assets -- sound and visuals. Of course those things are going to explode in size. 1080p is more than six times the pixel count of the original 480, so unless you want giant smeared textures and FMV that looks like Minecraft, those assets will take a lot more space than they used to.

If you really just want to play the original game, you don't need to spend $50 -- a toaster could emulate the PS2 disk at this point. Most people are excited about this because of the giant bump in visual quality, and visual quality takes disk space.

[RedLion7420]

Originally posted by Epic_Caesura:

Originally posted by RedLion7420:

I find the 50 GB size ridiculous, especially for a remaster of a game that do not take more than 4 GB on the original PS2 DVD.

What part of "HD remaster" is unclear to you? The large majority of a game's size is its media assets -- sound and visuals. Of course those things are going to explode in size. 1080p is more than six times the pixel count of the original 480, so unless you want giant smeared textures and FMV that looks like Minecraft, those assets will take a lot more space than they used to.

If you really just want to play the original game, you don't need to spend $50 -- a toaster could emulate the PS2 disk at this point. Most people are excited about this because of the giant bump in visual quality, and visual quality takes disk space.

"Bump in visual quality". "Of course things are going to explode in size". * Laugh out loud *. You obviously didn't watch youtube comparisons about the remaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EmUvuf20Ao

The sharpen Photoshop tool for textures has been overused and they mainly focused on polishing the main characters.

FYI, They even kept the original draw distance calculations of the PS2 for the PS4 Remaster. I put my hand on fire that the only bullsh*** thing that is sizing so much are the voices and the cutscenes. And believe me, they were already very nice on PS2 when compressed.

[RedLion7420]

Originally posted by Jon:

Originally posted by Scarlet Crusade:

Both English and Japanese audio for voice tracks, three complete soundtrack variants, fully uncompressed files for highest quality, all that sort of thing adds up.

They should put an option to select what you want to download.

THIS. But I guess it will mean more servers maintenance and would result of a price increase somehow.

Still, I'm ready to pay to have this damn option on Steam for games above 20GB. It starts to be a pain in the a**.

[devSin]

Originally posted by Jon:

I actually just remembered that Star Ocean was 55GB, but after you download it, youll notice it was actually only 23GB. I wonder if itll be the same with this game.

Star Ocean's download was 22GB. The actual size on disk is something like 51.2GB.

Hopefully FFXII will be the same (bandwidth is a lot harder to come by than disk space these days).

[Miro Laaksonen]

Originally posted by Epic_Caesura:

Could be worse. XV is over 100.

That was confirmed to be not true.

[Epic_Caesura]

Originally posted by Miro Laaksonen:

That was confirmed to be not true.

And then confirmed to be true -- we got the official specs last week.
https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/final-fantasy-xv-windows-edition-benchmark-release-date?nvid=nv-int-flfsxv-30424

Note that the 4k assets are even worse at 155GB.

That difference, by the way, highlights that the Op is complaining about here. Upping the resolution of visual assets has a huge impact on the size of a game. FFXII isn't 50GB because of multiple voice tracks or higher-quality music, although those do make an impact. FFXII is 50GB because the graphic assets take up that much more space. It's six times the number of pixels for 1080 resolution, but even six times the asset space might only bring it up to the same quality at a higher resolution, when really we'd want better than that.

This complaining is also premature until we know the download size, although I don't know if I'm too hopeful in that regard.

(And, yes, resolution doesn't scale linearly with file size, but you get the idea.)

[Plex]

FFX HD had a ton of unused and even duplicated files, I'm guessing its the same here

[Faint]

actually I think the original was around 4 lol