FF12 Boring?

[DensoYamaha41]

I am not trying to create conflict, but just curious if other people find this game boring. I am a huge FInal Fantasy Fan and have gone through and beaten FF 6-10 several times. 7 being my favorite.

Anyways, I am only about 6 hours into the game, but feel like I am forcing myself to play it hoping it gets better but having a hard time keeping interested.

Anybody else find the game boring or uninteresting? Does it get better?

[DensoYamaha41]

I just put about 100 hours into Octopath Traveler. Maybe I am too used and a big fan of old school RPGs. I don't like the combat on FF12 but trying to give a try.

Just wondering if anybody was in the same boat as me and changed their mind over time of the new style.

[Zangato]

All that matters that you put 100h in OT. The rest, screw it

[Akatosh]

Did you play enough to unlock the gambit system ?
Once you'll have it you will be able to create differents stratergies for your characters according to the job you gave to them.
And later in the game, each character will be able to get a 2nd job, allowing you to experiment the combinations you like (just beware it is not possible to repect, choose carefully).

[DensoYamaha41]

Originally posted by AlterEgoIsAFreakhoe:

Originally posted by Akatosh:

Did you play enough to unlock the gambit system ?
Once you'll have it you will be able to create differents stratergies for your characters according to the job you gave to them.
And later in the game, each character will be able to get a 2nd job, allowing you to experiment the combinations you like (just beware it is not possible to repect, choose carefully).

Six hours in, I'm pretty sure he's gotten passed gambits by now.

I have Gambits to me just dumbs down the game more where you just have your characters auto fight.

[M!lo]

It took me several playthroughs to finish the game when it came out because it would always bore me towards the end.

First of, it takes a while to pick up, and the lack of an obvious protagonist makes it difficult to care about anything that is going on. Not to mention that at the beginning everyone is just treating each other like a means to an end, which makes it harder to sympathize with the cast.

The middle is a bit more exciting, but the story of FF12 is probably my least favorite of any FF, so there's that.

And then the end is just... there. I found the gameplay to be the more exciting thing about this FF, but the cast is pretty 50/50 and I don't care for the story in the end.

[Justwondering]

For me and I've been gaming since 1983,is that Final fantasy 10 and lower, need a real remastering, full update into a new game engine, I find the gameplay to be lacking, although I enjoyed VII back in the day, they tend to feel a bit janky, final fantasy 12 and upwards, with the newer game engines still hold up well when remastered, I'm currently playing through Zodiac on my newly purchased Nintendo switch in handheld mode on its 6.2 inch screen, even though I could be playing it on my pc in 4k on a big screen...works really well on the Nintendo switch, which I mainly bought for the big RPGs such as Xenoblade chronicles 2.

[Unseen]

12 gets better as you play it to me, started out kinda dull but as it progresses and you get more summons/skills and characters I found it to get a lot better. I'm not as much into the story, or direction. People like to bash 13 but least it was exciting with a lot of dynamic camera angles, action, drama etc. 12 is great for gameplay, I really like its old school mechanics. I'm not really much of an ivalice fan, FFtactics is one of my favs for gameplay, but the story was long, prodding, preaching, negative, and downright cruel as far as FFs go a lot about tactics was incredibly edgy with all the coupes, executions, demon summoning, knight massacres, coughing up blood etc. Tactics was pretty damn dark and this isn't usually the moral of FF so I'm not much of an ivalice fan.
But 12s still more positive and light hearted than tactics, just gotta look at different FF's for different things.

[Skopin]

The story does start off very slow, but it gets much better. Once you get past Bhujerba, it'll start to pick up. As for the gambits, you don't necessarily have to use them at all. You can still control each of your characters' actions individually, and there is even an optional wait mode that stops all ATB gauges and actions while you're scrolling through the menus.

The gambits are there more to get rid of some of the tediousness of normal fights and level grinding.

[Crusta]

Only exhausting part of the game for me is that giant tower with 999999 floors of whatever the hell that thing called. Everything else is extremely enjoyable.

[Kayderim]

Well, i have over 1200 hours in all the 3 versions combined because i can't get tired of the gameplay since is so relaxing just to program your army with the gambit system and send them to murder things.

You may want to do the marks (hunts) that the game have, there are 50 of them and all of them are unique, and FF 12 is the only game that Gilgamesh is a ridiculously hard battle, there are guides on google that covers all of them if you're interested.

And if you're looking for challenge, try to explore some places early game where youre "not supposed" to go, like the Zertinan Caverns, you'll level up a lot if you manage to kill the monsters there, and if you have a Breaker in your party, the Vrscika (strongest hammer in the game) can be obtained very early in game

[Kayderim]

Originally posted by AlterEgoIsAFreakhoe:

Originally posted by Kayderim:

FF 12 is the only game that Gilgamesh is a ridiculously hard battle,

I lol'd.

Isn't it? Because when i fought him, he was dealing 2k damage per attack and comboing everytime.

Well, unless you use perma reverse like a wimp, you're going to die a lot there.

[Briggs]

In general, FF12 was easy. More so now with each character getting two boards.

[Hinnyuu]

I think "ridiculously hard" is a stretch. It's moderately challenging to new players, but mostly a joke to veterans even without Wither. The only hard part is when he's on very low HP and does crazy high combos and back to back Monarch Swords. But you can easily just swap tanks for that, or invalidate it entirely with Reverse.

Honestly, the only remotely hard fights at endgame involve instant-K.O. mechanics because that's the one thing you can't guard against.

[Kayderim]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

I think "ridiculously hard" is a stretch. It's moderately challenging to new players, but mostly a joke to veterans even without Wither. The only hard part is when he's on very low HP and does crazy high combos and back to back Monarch Swords. But you can easily just swap tanks for that, or invalidate it entirely with Reverse.

Honestly, the only remotely hard fights at endgame involve instant-K.O. mechanics because that's the one thing you can't guard against.

That's what i was refearing to.. It must have been because i was very underleveld or i fought him the moment the hunt appeared, but it got to the point that he was killing my characters faster than i could revive them, i had to run around the map to stop him from attacking me, but even so, he was spammin that special attack on my face from afar. And there's that part where becomes imune to damage and you have to endure it..

And yeah, i didn't use reverse / wither against him at all, so maybe it was it

[Kayderim]

Originally posted by AlterEgoIsAFreakhoe:

Originally posted by Kayderim:

That's what i was refearing to.. It must have been because i was very underleveld or i fought him the moment the hunt appeared, but it got to the point that he was killing my characters faster than i could revive them, i had to run around the map to stop him from attacking me, but even so, he was spammin that special attack on my face from afar. And there's that part where becomes imune to damage and you have to endure it..

And yeah, i didn't use reverse / wither against him at all, so maybe it was it

Just use the trident of oracle on him and boom he's done. At least 2 Uhlans would do it good dammit. The fight's not hard under any condition.

What is this trident of oracle, and how is this going to stop him from killing my characters in 2 hits?