Damage drop off on slugs

[Dino]

14 meter drilling chest shot 149 damage, pain

[87]

every f1cking time i run Romero Hatchet slug did 149 damage, never use slug anymore

[Tanyon]

They need to get rid of slugs period... I should not die to a shotgun if I'm 15M+ away regardless of ammo type.. it's such ♥♥♥♥.. hope whoever you both did 149 damage to killed you. Can't stand shotgun users easily the lowest skill mechanic in the game.

[Totally_not_Stalin]

I can beat that. 27m with the full size Specter, headshot, less than 140 damage

[Noxx]

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

They need to get rid of slugs period... I should not die to a shotgun if I'm 15M+ away regardless of ammo type.. it's such ♥♥♥♥.. hope whoever you both did 149 damage to killed you. Can't stand shotgun users easily the lowest skill mechanic in the game.

Wow you must be really hurt. Shotguns deserve to be in this game and slugs aren't overpowered, it's actually slightly less reliable than buckshot in a lot of scenarios. They don't need to get rid of slugs but you should learn to play the game properly. If you heard a shotgun in general, maybe you shouldn't get closer than 25 meters. And don't forget: If they gave you a headshot with slugs they could've done so with any sidearm as well. And slugs dealing 149 dmg is the same as bringing a sparks pistol with you and shoot someone in the chest on slug range as well, so you want to ban sparks pistol now too?

[Valyus]

Originally posted by Noxx:

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

They need to get rid of slugs period... I should not die to a shotgun if I'm 15M+ away regardless of ammo type.. it's such ♥♥♥♥.. hope whoever you both did 149 damage to killed you. Can't stand shotgun users easily the lowest skill mechanic in the game.

Wow you must be really hurt. Shotguns deserve to be in this game and slugs aren't overpowered, it's actually slightly less reliable than buckshot in a lot of scenarios. They don't need to get rid of slugs but you should learn to play the game properly. If you heard a shotgun in general, maybe you shouldn't get closer than 25 meters. And don't forget: If they gave you a headshot with slugs they could've done so with any sidearm as well. And slugs dealing 149 dmg is the same as bringing a sparks pistol with you and shoot someone in the chest on slug range as well, so you want to ban sparks pistol now too?

Sparks pistol requires a headshot. Terrible logic. Slugs all you need is an lower to upper body hit and it's GG.

Frankly I hate playing against slugs. I'd rather take the RNG of a normal buckshot than get hit with slugs since essentially they are mini-Nitro Expresses.

[Noxx]

Originally posted by Valyus:

Sparks pistol requires a headshot. Terrible logic. Slugs all you need is an lower to upper body hit and it's GG.

Frankly I hate playing against slugs. I'd rather take the RNG of a normal buckshot than get hit with slugs since essentially they are mini-Nitro Expresses.

Sparks pistol doesn't require a headshot to deal 149 damage though (which I was referring to). I personally don't mind playing against slugs, nitros, avtos or spam weapons. You can win all these gunfights if you play it smart or have the better positioning. If you're losing in a gunfight it's most of the times your own fault for being to close, being in a bad position or because you didn't read the situation well enough (just a few examples).

[daramqp]

Now slugs have no place in game:
Only difference with slugs you need ADS to hit properly, and arm hits very big minus, for slug user. Shotgun is shotgun, it shoud blow in close distance, but 14 m is too close for slug, comparing with buckshot 12m average, it makes no sense using it anymore, because of 2m more. And ADS in close fight is huge disadvantage, comparing to hip spaming with buck shot. Now slug is nothing more than any other weapon, 2 tap torso kill. And with in 14m range 1 tap kill for that 130bucks not worth... Exept you hit acidently arms.
Using slug is so big disadvantage now, you punished to ADS, less mobility, and most of time lossing against other shotgun with buck shot. It should be atleast 20m, and even then you still in worse scenario shotgun vs shotgun, even after buck shot range, because off ADS.
Its useless.
Slug is the worst ammo for shotguns. Exept still viable on shorter variants as secondary weapon for defence in lairs, comparing to other ammo stats on short variants.

[Dino]

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

They need to get rid of slugs period... I should not die to a shotgun if I'm 15M+ away regardless of ammo type.. it's such ♥♥♥♥.. hope whoever you both did 149 damage to killed you. Can't stand shotgun users easily the lowest skill mechanic in the game.

I can think of a lot worse than slugs, long ammo spitzer snipers in bushes, fanning, levering, dum dum, trios with status effects like shotguns, wire camping. Like you're complaining about that, but 149 damage at 14 meters is nonsensical when the romero and spectre would both oneshot at that range with slugs, the fact the drilling which is a long shotgun didn't is nonsensical.
Also the crossbow is sleeper unbalanced one shot at 32 meters+ with a chest shot and yet you cry about slugs, when in 90% of cases you'd die to a normal shotgun in the same situation.

[Dino]

Just went into the shooting range and shot a dummy at 14 meters and it did 150, how come my shot did 149 in the previous game

[Der Guteste TTV]

Originally posted by Dino:

Just went into the shooting range and shot a dummy at 14 meters and it did 150, how come my shot did 149 in the previous game

Shot was like 15,x meters so it left the lethal range of 15m but it got rounded down. Kill screen is wonky.

[Dunnit]

Always ads on shotguns, as long you can not see the white in the eyes of your enemies, otherwise you a shotgun noob and wondering about low damage outcome...

[GhostXIII☃]

Originally posted by Totally_not_Stalin:

I can beat that. 27m with the full size Specter, headshot, less than 140 damage

your problem is using the specter LOL

[Der Guteste TTV]

Originally posted by Totally_not_Stalin:

I can beat that. 27m with the full size Specter, headshot, less than 140 damage

Yes, that's how slugs are supposed to work.

[Dunnit]

Originally posted by GhostXIII☃:

Originally posted by Totally_not_Stalin:

I can beat that. 27m with the full size Specter, headshot, less than 140 damage

your problem is using the specter LOL

To be honest the specter is one of my favorite shotguns, bayonet with slugs or normal with pennys - always ads.

[GhostXIII☃]

Originally posted by Dunnit:

Originally posted by GhostXIII☃:

your problem is using the specter LOL

To be honest the specter is one of my favorite shotguns, bayonet with slugs or normal with pennys - always ads.

let me make this clear. i love shotguns. i just have the worst luck when i use specter. its probably good. but im so moldy with it LOL