Hunt: Showdown 1896

Hunt: Showdown 1896

Block VPN users and lower the minimum ping requirements to connect to servers
The amount of desync I've seen from international players in the last week is out of control
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Bimmelkaes May 12, 2023 @ 4:59pm 
costs money which they dont have since you didnt bought enough dlc-skins. Actually there will never be enough money, so the short answer will be "no". Sadly.

But i feel your pain brother. I am tired to fight asians, muricans and the maple guys because of their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ping aswell.
Last edited by Bimmelkaes; May 12, 2023 @ 5:00pm
Originally posted by Schrodinger's Left Nut:
The amount of desync I've seen from international players in the last week is out of control

I feel your pain. VPN blocking won't work for those who have VPN obfuscation which stealths the VPN to make it appear like a 'normal' non-VPN connection. More information on how VPN obfuscation works at the link here: https://www.cactusvpn.com/beginners-guide-to-vpn/vpn-obfuscation/
Venoyson May 12, 2023 @ 9:50pm 
This is much easier to solve. The server only needs to kick who is over 100ms ping. Simple!

The question is whether Crytek wants to solve this problem, because it will bring costs.
Eric Clapped 'Em May 12, 2023 @ 11:46pm 
Here is a trade from a foreigner today: https://streamable.com/ehseyw

The person was so dead, I actually got the prompt to loot their weapons before they killed me. Love when people are lagging it works for them.
realMatcher May 13, 2023 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Venoyson:
This is much easier to solve. The server only needs to kick who is over 100ms ping. Simple!

The question is whether Crytek wants to solve this problem, because it will bring costs.

So I cant play the game anymore? Sometimes I have a ping of 130ms and without vpn I cannot play the game.
Wow what a great idea.
Venoyson May 13, 2023 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by realMatcher:
Originally posted by Venoyson:
This is much easier to solve. The server only needs to kick who is over 100ms ping. Simple!

The question is whether Crytek wants to solve this problem, because it will bring costs.

So I cant play the game anymore? Sometimes I have a ping of 130ms and without vpn I cannot play the game.
Wow what a great idea.
Sorry! You have no technical condition, you need a server closest to you, or play another game.
Haruspex May 13, 2023 @ 8:06pm 
Have 80-100+ ping in my own region(asia) then pocket loss if I'm unlucky. VPN makes it consistently 20.
Yeizekiel May 14, 2023 @ 1:56am 
Crytek should remove region select altogether and automatically connect you to the lowest ping server and/or closest region. If ping is above 125, then no connection. For people with poor internet connectivity or international friends, find another game sadly, ask Crytek for private lobbies with friends or better servers near you. The exception should not become the standard, nor should the majority suffer for the few. A close friend was unable to play because his internet was horrible and ping spiked over 1K constantly. He took a break from Hunt and online games until he moved and had better internet. That was his reality, he didn't whine, just accepted the poor conditions until he could change them and did so without expecting people's gaming experience to be lowered because of his circumstances. This is seemingly reasonable and fair for consistency of online fps gaming.
Duncan.Idaho (Banned) May 14, 2023 @ 7:14am 
Originally posted by Yeizekiel:
Crytek should remove region select altogether and automatically connect you to the lowest ping server and/or closest region. If ping is above 125, then no connection. For people with poor internet connectivity or international friends, find another game sadly, ask Crytek for private lobbies with friends or better servers near you. The exception should not become the standard, nor should the majority suffer for the few. A close friend was unable to play because his internet was horrible and ping spiked over 1K constantly. He took a break from Hunt and online games until he moved and had better internet. That was his reality, he didn't whine, just accepted the poor conditions until he could change them and did so without expecting people's gaming experience to be lowered because of his circumstances. This is seemingly reasonable and fair for consistency of online fps gaming.

But, what about when the game is built from the ground up to handle global traffic and less than perfect network connections?
I think its reasonable then to have a ping limit of 200-250ms. No region lock needed of course, as its built to be a global game, so long as you fit the ping limit.
CornedBeef May 14, 2023 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by realMatcher:
Originally posted by Venoyson:
This is much easier to solve. The server only needs to kick who is over 100ms ping. Simple!

The question is whether Crytek wants to solve this problem, because it will bring costs.

So I cant play the game anymore? Sometimes I have a ping of 130ms and without vpn I cannot play the game.
Wow what a great idea.

Why do you have to have a VPN to play the game? If you are using the VPN to get past the ping limit then you are just an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Get better internet. A VPN doesn't fix your ping, it just makes it look better. You now STILL have the same latency to the game, plus the amount of latency it takes you to connect to the VPN.
CornedBeef May 14, 2023 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by Duncan.Idaho:
Originally posted by Yeizekiel:
Crytek should remove region select altogether and automatically connect you to the lowest ping server and/or closest region. If ping is above 125, then no connection. For people with poor internet connectivity or international friends, find another game sadly, ask Crytek for private lobbies with friends or better servers near you. The exception should not become the standard, nor should the majority suffer for the few. A close friend was unable to play because his internet was horrible and ping spiked over 1K constantly. He took a break from Hunt and online games until he moved and had better internet. That was his reality, he didn't whine, just accepted the poor conditions until he could change them and did so without expecting people's gaming experience to be lowered because of his circumstances. This is seemingly reasonable and fair for consistency of online fps gaming.

But, what about when the game is built from the ground up to handle global traffic and less than perfect network connections?
I think its reasonable then to have a ping limit of 200-250ms. No region lock needed of course, as its built to be a global game, so long as you fit the ping limit.


250 is way too high. I have under 200 to anywhere in the world. They should restrict people to the two closest servers and remove manual server selection. There is no reason to be able to select your server.
Duncan.Idaho (Banned) May 14, 2023 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by realMatcher:
Originally posted by Venoyson:
This is much easier to solve. The server only needs to kick who is over 100ms ping. Simple!

The question is whether Crytek wants to solve this problem, because it will bring costs.

So I cant play the game anymore? Sometimes I have a ping of 130ms and without vpn I cannot play the game.
Wow what a great idea.

Yeah, don't worry. Hunt has a very clear direction and it is clearly global.
Some people don't like it, but the developers are not going to deviate from the plan they started. You can see it when they talk about the game. They have a very clear idea in mind. Always willing to blend in things the playerbase requests. Such as Trio mode.
Yet not willing to compromise the greater plan. That Hunt is supposed to be played together with friends all around the world regardless of if they are competitive, good at games or have the best computer and internet in town.
There are a lot of those kind of players out there.
I think its genius, how they are trying to offer something that is not there in the Multiplayer FPS market yet.
Duncan.Idaho (Banned) May 14, 2023 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by CornedBeef:
Originally posted by Duncan.Idaho:

But, what about when the game is built from the ground up to handle global traffic and less than perfect network connections?
I think its reasonable then to have a ping limit of 200-250ms. No region lock needed of course, as its built to be a global game, so long as you fit the ping limit.


250 is way too high. I have under 200 to anywhere in the world. They should restrict people to the two closest servers and remove manual server selection. There is no reason to be able to select your server.

See that is proof right there. Its not so much about Geography as it is Latency. When latency reaches above 250ms, artifacts begin to arise in these games, but you cannot go much below that and still let everyone play.
Hunt wants everyone to play.
And really I think the biggest problem in the gaming world with regards to latency is "latency cheaters" aka "lag switchers" not people with sub-par internet connections. Its the ones who run software to switch their lag on and off that are the real issue.
Everyone is welcome in my matches. So long as they don't have latency above what the game stipulates (250ms).
Last edited by Duncan.Idaho; May 14, 2023 @ 8:09am
Yeizekiel May 14, 2023 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by Duncan.Idaho:
Originally posted by Yeizekiel:
Crytek should remove region select altogether and automatically connect you to the lowest ping server and/or closest region. If ping is above 125, then no connection. For people with poor internet connectivity or international friends, find another game sadly, ask Crytek for private lobbies with friends or better servers near you. The exception should not become the standard, nor should the majority suffer for the few. A close friend was unable to play because his internet was horrible and ping spiked over 1K constantly. He took a break from Hunt and online games until he moved and had better internet. That was his reality, he didn't whine, just accepted the poor conditions until he could change them and did so without expecting people's gaming experience to be lowered because of his circumstances. This is seemingly reasonable and fair for consistency of online fps gaming.

But, what about when the game is built from the ground up to handle global traffic and less than perfect network connections?
I think its reasonable then to have a ping limit of 200-250ms. No region lock needed of course, as its built to be a global game, so long as you fit the ping limit.

Duncan.Idaho, I understand the global community concept. In theory it is great, but in execution here, it is lacking. Between the game's high tick rate, the awful trade window (regardless of its purposeful design), and Crytek using the cheapest servers; the general and global community experience are often subpar. I know and have seen you extensively defend these above issues through gas lighting or anecdotal: "It doesn't happen to me, so it's fine." Despite this, dead people can kill you after they hit the ground. Also, cheating is socially acceptable and encouraged in other countries and these international players are pervasive pests on US servers. Combined with a lack of death camera, poor server stability, desync issues, etc. Crytek often creates a frustratingly poor experience in the bayou. Crytek should focus on creating a great experience at a local level, ie for most players. Once they improve this experience, then focus on the more expansive global scale. Biting off too much to chew and implementing the top down approach without the right resources and designs are why so many people are disappointed with Crytek's choices here. Additionally, other successful games in the fps market don't allow manual server selection and still achieve global communities. These games although different than Hunt in many ways, are still inclusive and arguably operate more ideally because of design choices that Hunt developers should also emulate. As a whole, stating this game was designed to do or be something, globally balanced and experienced, but often failing to achieve success here is reason to implement actual changes/fixes. Instead, Crytek doubles down, trudges through and usually without addressing continuous problems and implement superficial fixes. The entire ping limit for server selection is an example of ineffective and superficial "fix." If the equally ineffective SBMM toggle was removed from Hunt, so should server selection. If this creates issues for the few and improves general play for the majority, that is preferable and ideal.

The reality is not everyone can or will have accessible gameplay here. These people should ask Crytek to improve the server abilities or receive a refund for the game. That's the reality of online capabilities or lacktherof. If enough people want refunds due to lack of local server accessibility, maybe Crtyek would create additional resources.

Another idea, Crytek should host two additional server regions.

1.) "Wild West" is a server that would be for people with high ping and international duos/trios wanting a global experience. Everyone can also opt into this server, reagrdless of ping and geographic location, but you are automatically connected here if ping is above 125 or in international duos/trios. In such case, players know they will be playing against people and experience less than ideal conditions, but everyone is aware and can choose to then have a subpar or alternative experience.

2.) "Badlands" is the other server created and people with VAC or game bans in the last 3 years are automatically placed here. Then cheaters don't have to impact everyone's experience, still have online access, and can try to out cheat each other for the win. This would mitigate some cheaters presence in the general servers. Sure there are ways around this with new Steam accounts, etc. but having a replay camera and better anicheat to detect and ban new offenders while preemptively creating damage control is best. Many current SCUMGE and BB clans members would no longer infest honest lobbies and waste people's time.
Tomoko May 14, 2023 @ 12:11pm 
So I'm not allowed to play with my friends? :D Thanks for your input, I'm glad you want to ruin people's gaming experience
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