Remove Bullet drop from the game

[₦ | cpt.morgan]

It just disturbs the gun fights. Its not practicable because no one can figure out the exact distances and no one uses the spyglass

It was already hard before to hit someone one distance because of the bullet travel time, with the new update it only complexes hitting players even more, its just spagat and impossible to hit someone on higher distances

The gunplay is one of the central elements in hunt and bullet drop destroys it

Snipers also have a big disatvanatge

No cool kills on distances anymore for your Youtube clips

Just remove it, its ♥♥♥♥!

[Loctarjay]

引用自 Virsenas：

引用自 Killswi†ch：

I'll have a look when I get home, but I have a suspicion that you'll find some excuse to dismiss it.

I just hope you don't post a video from 2 years ago when the bullet drop did not exist and tell me "There you go, I told you".

"dont post a video from 2 years ago when the bullet drop did not exist and tell me - There you go, I told you"

Why not?
Don't you like being proven wrong?
To post a video of a cheater ignoring bullet drop, they'd first need to be caught, so what you are demanding is that Killswitch should buy cheats and then record how it works xD

Arma 3 have bullet drop and cheaters did not care back then, so why do you think they will care just because the game is called Hunt: Showdown?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9zRFBeXKas
(Prediction: "Arma 3 is not the same as Hunt")

Well, how about we then have someone who literally explains to you what Silent Aim does?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1NkSsi2LrI
(Prediction: "But CS does not have bullet drop")

It is not about how the game works, it is about how the cheats work = the cheat does not care about the game, at all, literally what the purpose of the cheat is xD
But I'll be waiting for your response as to why these 2 videos are "invalid" when it comes to bullet drop in Hunt, other than you simply just dismissing it because you dont like being wrong xD

[Killswi†ch]

引用自 Virsenas：

引用自 Killswi†ch：

I'll have a look when I get home, but I have a suspicion that you'll find some excuse to dismiss it.

I just hope you don't post a video from 2 years ago when the bullet drop did not exist and tell me "There you go, I told you".

Ah and there we have it. Your making up excuses even before I've posted anything. Here is a video from 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgtm0h6ZYks
Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters. If solid stone walls don't stop their bullets, what makes you think that a drop would? Cheat software doesn't have to abide by the in game physics or logic, it exploits it in any way possible. You can deny it all you want, but in doing so you only prove how ignorant you really are. Either that or you're trolling.

[Virsenas]

引用自 Killswi†ch：

引用自 Virsenas：

I just hope you don't post a video from 2 years ago when the bullet drop did not exist and tell me "There you go, I told you".

Ah and there we have it. Your making up excuses even before I've posted anything. Here is a video from 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgtm0h6ZYks
Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters. If solid walls don't stop their bullets, what makes you think that a drop would? Cheat software doesn't have to abide by the in game physics or logic, it exploits it in any way possible. You can deny it all you want, but in doing so you only prove how ignorant you really are. Either that or you're trolling.

Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters.

How can bullet drop make it harder for cheaters to kill someone when it did not exist 3 months ago ...? Maybe stop trolling?

[Loctarjay]

引用自 Killswi†ch：

引用自 Virsenas：

I just hope you don't post a video from 2 years ago when the bullet drop did not exist and tell me "There you go, I told you".

Ah and there we have it. Your making up excuses even before I've posted anything. Here is a video from 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgtm0h6ZYks
Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters. If solid walls don't stop their bullets, what makes you think that a drop would? Cheat software doesn't have to abide by the in game physics or logic, it exploits it in any way possible. You can deny it all you want, but in doing so you only prove how ignorant you really are. Either that or you're trolling.

Even better, your video shows the player literally shooting up in the air prior to bullet drop and still hitting = prior to bullet drop he forcefully dropped the bullet on their head xD

Virsenas is a troll, just look at his post-history and you will see how he is literally trolling 90% of the time he's commenting, yet Steam Mods are apparently allowing him to break the rules and dont ask me why

[Loctarjay]

引用自 Virsenas：

引用自 Killswi†ch：

Ah and there we have it. Your making up excuses even before I've posted anything. Here is a video from 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgtm0h6ZYks
Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters. If solid walls don't stop their bullets, what makes you think that a drop would? Cheat software doesn't have to abide by the in game physics or logic, it exploits it in any way possible. You can deny it all you want, but in doing so you only prove how ignorant you really are. Either that or you're trolling.

Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters.

How can bullet drop make it harder for cheaters to kill someone when it did not exist 3 months ago ...? Maybe stop trolling?

Then explain to us, what bullet drop would change when in the video, he is shooting directly into the air and half a screen away from his target yet still hitting them.
According to your "logic" then there was no bullet drop and the bullet shot into the air, at 2:03 in the video, should never hit the enemy, because it would never drop

OR how about explaining to us what "bullet drop" would affect at 1:56 into the video where he's shooting 2 players with 1 bullet

Since you clearly are the master of cheats, then please do explain to us why his cheat would be like: "OH NOOOO, they added bullet drop, i am malfunctioning" xD

[Killswi†ch]

引用自 Virsenas：

引用自 Killswi†ch：

Ah and there we have it. Your making up excuses even before I've posted anything. Here is a video from 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgtm0h6ZYks
Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters. If solid walls don't stop their bullets, what makes you think that a drop would? Cheat software doesn't have to abide by the in game physics or logic, it exploits it in any way possible. You can deny it all you want, but in doing so you only prove how ignorant you really are. Either that or you're trolling.

Look at that and tell me that bullet drop is stopping any cheaters.

How can bullet drop make it harder for cheaters to kill someone when it did not exist 3 months ago ...? Maybe stop trolling?

You can play willfully ignorant all you like, that doesn't change anything. You're not convincing anyone here.
Maybe this isn't an act and you actually believe what you said earlier. Could that be the case? If so, I wonder how many hours you've played Hunt. Your total playtime is hidden, but judging by your "Steam Year In Review 2023" and Hunt sitting at only 7% it's not much. At least that would explain why you believe such rubbish fairy tails.

[Virsenas]

引用自 Killswi†ch：

引用自 Virsenas：

How can bullet drop make it harder for cheaters to kill someone when it did not exist 3 months ago ...? Maybe stop trolling?

You can play willfully ignorant all you like, that doesn't change anything. You're not convincing anyone here.
Maybe this isn't an act and you actually believe what you said earlier. Could that be the case? If so, I wonder how many hours you've played Hunt. Your total playtime is hidden, but judging by your "Steam Year In Review 2023" and Hunt sitting at only 7% it's not much. At least that would explain why you believe such rubbish.

So when you have nothing else to say about bullet drop you go for my in-game hours that has nothing to do with bullet drop, like every other one in this thread that did the same. I applaud your decision.

And talking about hours and game experience, I guess it does make sense when "experienced" players that have 5000 hours in a game are having a harder time killing people when bullet drop is introduced in the game, but any other player that has experience with bullet drop in any game has no problem hitting players in the same game as the 5000 hour "pro" with lets say for an example just several hundred hours. This definitely does not sound like bullet drop is making cheaters have a harder time killing other players.

[Loctarjay]

引用自 Virsenas：

引用自 Killswi†ch：

You can play willfully ignorant all you like, that doesn't change anything. You're not convincing anyone here.
Maybe this isn't an act and you actually believe what you said earlier. Could that be the case? If so, I wonder how many hours you've played Hunt. Your total playtime is hidden, but judging by your "Steam Year In Review 2023" and Hunt sitting at only 7% it's not much. At least that would explain why you believe such rubbish.

And talking about hours and game experience, I guess it does make sense when "experienced" players that have 5000 hours in a game are having a harder time killing people when bullet drop is introduced in the game, but any other player that has experience with bullet drop in any game has no problem hitting players in the same game as the 5000 hour "pro" with lets say for an example just several hundred hours. This definitely does not sound like bullet drop is making cheaters have a harder time killing other players. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

It amuses me how you are equating a "5000 hour player" with a cheater just because he struggles with bullet drop xD
You are using a random created profiled-player to then argue your "trust me bruh" agenda that cheats somehow does not work with bullet drop xD
If that truly was the case, dont you think every pvp shooter with implement bullet drop, to prevent cheating like aimbot and silent aim xD

careful dude, your ignorance is shining bright xD

[Killswi†ch]

引用自 Virsenas：

引用自 Killswi†ch：

You can play willfully ignorant all you like, that doesn't change anything. You're not convincing anyone here.
Maybe this isn't an act and you actually believe what you said earlier. Could that be the case? If so, I wonder how many hours you've played Hunt. Your total playtime is hidden, but judging by your "Steam Year In Review 2023" and Hunt sitting at only 7% it's not much. At least that would explain why you believe such rubbish.

So when you have nothing else to say about bullet drop you go for my in-game hours that has nothing to do with bullet drop, like every other one in this thread that did the same. I applaud your decision.

And talking about hours and game experience, I guess it does make sense when "experienced" players that have 5000 hours in a game are having a harder time killing people when bullet drop is introduced in the game, but any other player that has experience with bullet drop in any game has no problem hitting players in the same game as the 5000 hour "pro" with lets say for an example just several hundred hours. This definitely does not sound like bullet drop is making cheaters have a harder time killing other players. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

Do you even hear yourself? If bullet drop is so effective at preventing cheating, how come Battlefield games have cheaters in them, aimbotting their way to the top of the scoreboard?

Please be so kind and provide us with footage where we can see a cheater missing shots because of bullet drop! Then we can discuss it further.

[Peter Panzy]

Bullet drop was put in to balance the extreme long range game and not to stop cheaters. Its obvious and kind of common sense for anyone that has played games for any real length of time.

Though if this does do anything against cheaters, it might help expose them easier since they be would be making nearly impossible shots way more often than a normal good player would., but thats about it.

[Renegated Evrae]

引用自 Peter Panzy：

Bullet drop was put in to balance the extreme long range game and not to stop cheaters. Its obvious and kind of common sense for anyone that has played games for any real length of time.

Though if this does do anything against cheaters, it might help expose them easier since they be would be making nearly impossible shots way more often than a normal good player would., but thats about it.

Nah, they simply adapted, now they get in the compound and wait for the secure kill using the wallhack, once the target exposes himself they peek and insta-headshot.

Right now it's worse than before, because before they made it kinda obvious, and in case of not being sure, you could still report them for exploiting, since being far away enough to prevent texture loading it's essentially an exploit, right now unless they expose themselves doing an impossible shot, it's almost impossible to know when it's a cheater and when a real player, since they blend themselves far more than before.

[Soft & Wet]

引用自 Un!ted20：

引用自 Darth_Angeal：

It´ll still has an impact on softaims and other aimbots, which are not those 900m spawnkiller.
So Virsenas is not wrong at all, but ofc the first intention was clearly not "to protect from cheaters". Poeple just requested it for years and also have became tired of those 250m bushwookies with mosin-spitzer.

Sorry, but that is wrong, totally wrong.
They not have to "mysteriously" calculate anything.
The bullet drop ratio is basically public information.

We are talking about people who know how to inject objects - that not even exist - in their client and tricking the server in believing that is "valid". They code tools that track any object on the server in real time and other stuff.

Thinking that bullet drop would make anything "harder" for these dudes, is naive and ridiculous at best.

Its like saying: "The travel time was already enough. Since cheaters had it way harder to calculate how much they need to lead a target." Its simply untrue. Bullet drop is exactly the same, just vertically.

I mean, we can discuss if bullet drop in hunt is good or bad all day, but please leave out the argument it woud make anything more "difficult" for cheaters.

You clearly have little to no experience with this..

Bullet drop has been a bane of aimbot creators in games with various guns with varying velocity/drop for a long period of time. Rust is one they’ve constantly complained about on the forum that shall not be named lest I get instabanned.

What you end up seeing is cheaters congregating around specific guns that detection is stable for, resulting in higher detection rates.

Bullet drop is 100% a mitigating factor when it comes to cheating, at least to some degree.

[Barry MaCockiner]

引用自 Peter Panzy：

Bullet drop was put in to balance the extreme long range game and not to stop cheaters. Its obvious and kind of common sense for anyone that has played games for any real length of time.

Though if this does do anything against cheaters, it might help expose them easier since they be would be making nearly impossible shots way more often than a normal good player would., but thats about it.

Maybe it does make cheating more difficult, but cheating difficulty and detection should never have been any kind of reason to have bullet drop in the game, I mean never.

Improve your anticheat, wake up the task force, anything except adding shooting mechanics as a partial combat to cheaters.

[ZzPips]

as someone who loved sniping in battlefield games for years i see no issue with the bullet drop. ♥♥♥♥ ive only noticed it being a thing a total of 2 times out of my games since the update. most fight are just not fought at those ranges where it even comes into play. i image it will become more apparent as we get the more open old maps but the new map really has very limited long range sniping locations not too many massive los.

[Loctarjay]

引用自 CAPTAIN TENNEAL：

引用自 Un!ted20：

Sorry, but that is wrong, totally wrong.
They not have to "mysteriously" calculate anything.
The bullet drop ratio is basically public information.

We are talking about people who know how to inject objects - that not even exist - in their client and tricking the server in believing that is "valid". They code tools that track any object on the server in real time and other stuff.

Thinking that bullet drop would make anything "harder" for these dudes, is naive and ridiculous at best.

Its like saying: "The travel time was already enough. Since cheaters had it way harder to calculate how much they need to lead a target." Its simply untrue. Bullet drop is exactly the same, just vertically.

I mean, we can discuss if bullet drop in hunt is good or bad all day, but please leave out the argument it woud make anything more "difficult" for cheaters.

You clearly have little to no experience with this..

Bullet drop has been a bane of aimbot creators in games with various guns with varying velocity/drop for a long period of time. Rust is one they’ve constantly complained about on the forum that shall not be named lest I get instabanned.

...

Bullet drop is 100% a mitigating factor when it comes to cheating, at least to some degree.

Then perhaps you can help Virsenas and post a video of cheaters struggling with Bullet Drop, since you are also on the side of "cheaters struggle with bullet drop" - no need to post a link, just give me a clear indication of how to find the specific video