The veterans really want this game to die.

[Kelso]

Just what the title says, yall really want this game to die.
Looking at steam the recent reviews are "mostly negative" and why you ask? Because the veterans (as ive literally not seen 3 negative reviews from new players mentioning UI) feel the need to cry because the bad UI we had before is replaced with a different form of "bad" UI that makes them click 1-2 more times before starting a game.

This update literally made the player base skyrocket and ive ran into multiple new players the last 24 hours (something you just didnt do prior to 1896) and yall wanna tank any chance of this game getting a good growing community cause you have to click a few extra times? Does your fingers hurt that bad?

Do what you want but dont be surprised when the player base is dead again because the vets ran every new player off by review bombing the game over a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ UI causing the new players to stop playing, make something a problem that they never felt was a problem, or just completely divert someone from buying cause they see the negative reviews while the vets are still going to play regardless if they posted that bad review or not.

[Kelso]

Originally posted by Seph:

I was about to do a thread to talk about the game and some complaints as new player but i found this thread so i'll talk here...since there's people who might bash me or help.

I have the game since it launched back in 2018....I bought with a friend and we played for 2 hours and no more....this update came and i thought "well might as well install and try since i'm bored" (i quit Apex-over 2K and Cod-over 1k ,FK Fornite)

I'm alone and tha'ts not a problem (well i thought so after some hours) game is fun but the learning curve is a bit steep,but ok i try and get better.I'm not a pro,usually my KDA is around 1.10-1.30.I tried playing duos and trios but i guess no one wants to play with a noob so back to solos....I'm struggling,the game is fun,i did some bounties and extracts but people are so much better and one tap me like butter.

But the fun is running out cause of being alone and i don't wanna it to be chore.Any tips or anyone who is the same as me and wants to tag alone???

Unfortunately its an extraction shooter so its designed to be painful even when you're "good". Id keep trying duos and trios and watch what they do and try to pick up on it. Honestly, just watch some youtube vids to help.

[Kelso]

Originally posted by Peter Panzy:

Originally posted by Kelso:

If you're point is they aren't upset because they don't know better then you're point is to literally create a problem when there isn't one.

The statement said was "new players are gonna leave if the UI isn't fixed" but that's complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cause most new players seemingly don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about the UI.

Its exactly what I mean and they won't know cause they never experienced the old UI. So they have no idea how good the previous one was.

I also don't even rember the OP thread title cause these thread has split into many different directions and conversations. However, if you like, then yes..... New players don't care and therefore won't be leaving only based on the bad Ui.

See, now you're proving the point of the thread. The old UI was, honestly, about as ass as this one is but no one talked about it until it changed from ass to another form of ass. The old UI wasnt good, its just what you got used to.

[hotmatrixx]

Originally posted by Kelso:

Originally posted by Peter Panzy:

Its exactly what I mean and they won't know cause they never experienced the old UI. So they have no idea how good the previous one was.

I also don't even rember the OP thread title cause these thread has split into many different directions and conversations. However, if you like, then yes..... New players don't care and therefore won't be leaving only based on the bad Ui.

See, now you're proving the point of the thread. The old UI was, honestly, about as ass as this one is but no one talked about it until it changed from ass to another form of ass. The old UI wasnt good, its just what you got used to.

no, I think this is where everyone is mistaken.
The old UI wasn't bad, in fact it was pretty good, generally; THE PROBLEMS were that it needed better organising, with tabs and groups of tabs across the top making more sense than what they did. the biggest complaint was fixed, where challenges 'now' popped up on the main screen.


People complained about 'too many tabs' but that wasn't the actual issue; the issue was that if you didn't know what something was behind, then you'd have to hunt for it - ie the tabs and their sub-tabs didn't make intuitive sense.

what we needed was NOT a complete rework;
A "Play" tab for picking game mode, friends, swapping Hunters, maybe.
A "Hunter" tab where we could sort, buy, dismiss, and kit out hunters
A "Progression" tab that held challenges, quests, battlepasses, and possibly our stats
A "Library" tab for our books and possibly our stats
A "Store" page that didn't force us to go through 2 scrolls and a tab switch jus to see what the offers were

Maybe a could of other bits and bobs here and there,

The new layout puts everything behind extra layers; you can't doubleclick a couple of things to pop them in inventory; every time you click something now the menu switches, making it more painful that it used to be.

Again, hot take the old UI was fine it just needed to be organised into more sensible tabs.


I mean RN if you have a Hunter, buy a new one it sends you back to the lobby screen, with your previous Hunter; you then have to cycle back tot he 'hunters' tab, then change hunter, then load them out.

[BTTrinity]

Originally posted by Moomi:

it takes 10 clicks to do something vs 2 clicks previously. It fails the basic principle of "improving UI"

Might wanna figure that one out, I have an 8 year old PC and menus are one click. Unless you double click in place of pressing enter. None of these horrible "Optimization" issues either that people with their "Super PCs cant even run this game". MF's just need to get a grip, get off their high horse and stop acting entitled.

i7 6700k gtx 1070ti and 16gb ram. 2560x1440 165hz - Object, Textures, Anisotropic, and view distance all ultra. Shadows and lighting settings medium. Grass, Particles and effects low. FSR set to balanced and hold down 60fps no problem.

[Barry MaCockiner]

Originally posted by BTTrinity:

Originally posted by Moomi:

it takes 10 clicks to do something vs 2 clicks previously. It fails the basic principle of "improving UI"

Might wanna figure that one out, I have an 8 year old PC and menus are one click. Unless you double click in place of pressing enter. None of these horrible "Optimization" issues either that people with their "Super PCs cant even run this game". MF's just need to get a grip, get off their high horse and stop acting entitled.

i7 6700k gtx 1070ti and 16gb ram. 2560x1440 165hz - Object, Textures, Anisotropic, and view distance all ultra. Shadows and lighting settings medium. Grass, Particles and effects low. FSR set to balanced and hold down 60fps no problem.

Yes but this always happens though, there will be a very small percentage of users that report " No issues, it's all fine my game runs great"

If you you look at the big picture though, there are multiple issues in many areas that boatloads of players are reporting. So developer is onto hotfixes asap.

You can't just call people entitled because they're experiencing actual issues that they want fixed.

[Mr.CatFace]

So people shouldnt complain over a huge decrease in quality? It is worse in pretty much every way, apparent in less than five seconds of use.

[Newbie4life!!!]

Originally posted by BTTrinity:

Originally posted by Moomi:

it takes 10 clicks to do something vs 2 clicks previously. It fails the basic principle of "improving UI"

Might wanna figure that one out, I have an 8 year old PC and menus are one click. Unless you double click in place of pressing enter. None of these horrible "Optimization" issues either that people with their "Super PCs cant even run this game". MF's just need to get a grip, get off their high horse and stop acting entitled.

i7 6700k gtx 1070ti and 16gb ram. 2560x1440 165hz - Object, Textures, Anisotropic, and view distance all ultra. Shadows and lighting settings medium. Grass, Particles and effects low. FSR set to balanced and hold down 60fps no problem.

Brother, you don't know what he is even talking about, it's not the amount of clicks to recognise the command, but the amount of clicks needed to accomplish what you desire.

For instance it took one click before in old UI to get into a game (2 if you want to play solo vs duos, more if you're inviting people), when the game loads, it brings you right to the lobby where you can just click find match.

Now you gotta click out of the ingame advertisement, click bounty hunt, and then click find match. If you want to invite players you gotta invite one, wait for them to accept, and then invite another instead of sending two invites out at once.

Switching skins makes you redirect to 3 pages (weapon->it's list of skin, then back to weapons page) when before it was just a click on the same page. It takes like 6-7 redirects to skin dual wielding pistols with a different skin each.

etc etc

*Also not gonna believe you run this game no prob at that spec because my friend has a 2060 super and he now has to play on 1080p if he wants to play the game with better gfx (can play 1440p if everything low).

[Kelso]

Originally posted by Mr.CatFace:

So people shouldnt complain over a huge decrease in quality? It is worse in pretty much every way, apparent in less than five seconds of use.

I mean, it isnt but go on chief.

[hotmatrixx]

Originally posted by Newbie4life!!!:

Originally posted by BTTrinity:

Might wanna figure that one out, I have an 8 year old PC and menus are one click. Unless you double click in place of pressing enter. None of these horrible "Optimization" issues either that people with their "Super PCs cant even run this game". MF's just need to get a grip, get off their high horse and stop acting entitled.

i7 6700k gtx 1070ti and 16gb ram. 2560x1440 165hz - Object, Textures, Anisotropic, and view distance all ultra. Shadows and lighting settings medium. Grass, Particles and effects low. FSR set to balanced and hold down 60fps no problem.

Brother, you don't know what he is even talking about, it's not the amount of clicks to recognise the command, but the amount of clicks needed to accomplish what you desire.

For instance it took one click before in old UI to get into a game (2 if you want to play solo vs duos, more if you're inviting people), when the game loads, it brings you right to the lobby where you can just click find match.

Now you gotta click out of the ingame advertisement, click bounty hunt, and then click find match. If you want to invite players you gotta invite one, wait for them to accept, and then invite another instead of sending two invites out at once.

Switching skins makes you redirect to 3 pages (weapon->it's list of skin, then back to weapons page) when before it was just a click on the same page. It takes like 6-7 redirects to skin dual wielding pistols with a different skin each.

etc etc

*Also not gonna believe you run this game no prob at that spec because my friend has a 2060 super and he now has to play on 1080p if he wants to play the game with better gfx (can play 1440p if everything low).

wait; I missed that earlier;
He's running "all ultra" with a 1070ti
Well can I have some of whatever his computer is smoking for my computer? My 3080ti runs a stable 120 when everything on Medium - on Ultra I'm on around 30-40 FPS.

[Kelso]

Originally posted by Rat:

Originally posted by Newbie4life!!!:

Brother, you don't know what he is even talking about, it's not the amount of clicks to recognise the command, but the amount of clicks needed to accomplish what you desire.

For instance it took one click before in old UI to get into a game (2 if you want to play solo vs duos, more if you're inviting people), when the game loads, it brings you right to the lobby where you can just click find match.

Now you gotta click out of the ingame advertisement, click bounty hunt, and then click find match. If you want to invite players you gotta invite one, wait for them to accept, and then invite another instead of sending two invites out at once.

Switching skins makes you redirect to 3 pages (weapon->it's list of skin, then back to weapons page) when before it was just a click on the same page. It takes like 6-7 redirects to skin dual wielding pistols with a different skin each.

etc etc

*Also not gonna believe you run this game no prob at that spec because my friend has a 2060 super and he now has to play on 1080p if he wants to play the game with better gfx (can play 1440p if everything low).

wait; I missed that earlier;
He's running "all ultra" with a 1070ti
Well can I have some of whatever his computer is smoking for my computer? My 3080ti runs a stable 120 when everything on Medium - on Ultra I'm on around 30-40 FPS.

Yeah I'll stand with this guy is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lying.

[76561198870445561]

Wrong. I want Crytek to finally change course after 6+ years and start develop this game like a real game it is and not like a early access title, focus on bugfixes and optimization instead of a new DLC every other week and new ♥♥♥♥ all the time. Actually TEST the game and stop abusing players as alpha version testers.

[hotmatrixx]

Originally posted by Kelso:

Originally posted by Rat:

wait; I missed that earlier;
He's running "all ultra" with a 1070ti
Well can I have some of whatever his computer is smoking for my computer? My 3080ti runs a stable 120 when everything on Medium - on Ultra I'm on around 30-40 FPS.

Yeah I'll stand with this guy is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lying.

I'm guessing he's got an RTx 580 or an nVidia 1060 or something and has wildly over-estimated the power of the (now 8 year old) 1080ti

[Kelso]

Originally posted by Plandemic:

Wrong. I want Crytek to finally change course after 6+ years and start develop this game like a real game it is and not like a early access title, focus on bugfixes and optimization instead of a new DLC every other week and new ♥♥♥♥ all the time. Actually TEST the game and stop abusing players as alpha version testers.

Explain to me how review bombing over a UI you dont like when the old one wasnt that good either? Dont mention "THE OLD UI WAS GOOD", explain to me how review bombing over JUST THE UI, accomplishes what you just said you wanted.

[Kelso]

Originally posted by Rat:

Originally posted by Kelso:

Yeah I'll stand with this guy is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lying.

I'm guessing he's got an RTx 580 or an nVidia 1060 or something and has wildly over-estimated the power of the (now 8 year old) 1080ti

Facts are anything over 60 FPS starts EATING GPU power even at 1080p but this dude is claiming 160 on 2k? Yeah thats not obtainable by a 3070ti on most games base let alone start talking about ultra settings.

[Oobaneko]

Originally posted by Kelso:

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

Sucks that it's stimulated by increasing punishment for being down.

I stand by there shouldnt be a downed system, you get killed and youre done.

So, you wanna game die.