so wtf is up with Nitro Express?

[Ligma Male]

Very expensive, but I finally decided to try using for several matches in a row.
It is a confusing weapon. Yeah it is a one shot kill at short-medium distance, and it kills meatheads in 1 shot (most of the time).

However, it seems to be useless at long ranges. The problem is, with 250 meters worth of effective range. You SHOULD BE SAFE killing whatever the ♥♥♥ you want, because beyond around 150m, the target just becomes microscopic. It is unlikely you would even take that shot. Magnification is minimal and the gun sways like crazy.
Several games in a row, I couldn't even kill a guy with TWO SHOTS! And it mostly happens at around 150 meter distances, so the enemy model is decently large.
How can that be??? Is the 250m stat false?

-You can't see ♥♥♥♥ with Nitro's awful scope. It makes it incredibly bad for short-medium range.
-When you draw the weapon after sprinting, the ironsight is COMPLETELY blocked for like half a second.
-And you can't one shot kill targets at long range.
-Special ammo is almost completely pointless for this weapon (bleeding for what exactly??? explosive ammo for what exactly??? You 1-shot meatheads with regular ammo)
-It costs a ♥♥♥♥ ton, and ends up being as just a meme weapon.

But most of all, that scope is just disgustingly bad. And hilariously enough, I saw some people who say that the magnification it provides - makes it "OP one shot sniper rifle" lmao.

[Der Guteste TTV]

Effective range = the range where you can still headshot a target.

Bleeding is busted good on Nitro. Normal nitro oneshots to like 40-50 meters of something.
Bleeding extends that to over 70 meters AND applied heavy bleed.

Nitros scope is intended for balancing. A gun that onetaps to the body at those ranges would be busted af if the sights are good. Nitro is not for everyone but in the right hands *cough quickscoping cough* it is insane.

[CynicDragon]

its hip fire accuracy is 0%

[Tithain]

Yeah Nitro scope is utter garbage. Forcing you to use a scope that doesn't let you see anything is a very lame way of "balancing" a weapon, but it's Hunt, what do you expect.
On paper it looks like the best gun in the game, but it's just so annoying to use in practice that you don't see it very often at all.

[Ligma Male]

Publicado originalmente por PinappleTheFrootDood:

Effective range = the range where you can still headshot a target.

Bleeding is busted good on Nitro. Normal nitro oneshots to like 40-50 meters of something.
Bleeding extends that to over 70 meters AND applied heavy bleed.

Nitros scope is intended for balancing. A gun that onetaps to the body at those ranges would be busted af if the sights are good. Nitro is not for everyone but in the right hands *cough quickscoping cough* it is insane.

great breakdown. Too bad no one bothers to write that in the game description, especially that "effective range" bit which is misleading.
I guess I am convinced to try Shredder ammo with quickscoping. Regular aim feels like it is pointless anyway.

In regards of bleeding. From what I observe about myself and the peeps I know, basically everyone gets that anti-bleeding Hunter trait. Doesn't it negate the Shredder benefit?(basically you can only one-shot-bleed kill blank slate hunters)

[Filipino Enjoyer]

the scope for it is awful, that itself is literally good enough a reason to not ever run it

[Der Guteste TTV]

Publicado originalmente por ZIGGER:

Publicado originalmente por PinappleTheFrootDood:

Effective range = the range where you can still headshot a target.

Bleeding is busted good on Nitro. Normal nitro oneshots to like 40-50 meters of something.
Bleeding extends that to over 70 meters AND applied heavy bleed.

Nitros scope is intended for balancing. A gun that onetaps to the body at those ranges would be busted af if the sights are good. Nitro is not for everyone but in the right hands *cough quickscoping cough* it is insane.

great breakdown. Too bad no one bothers to write that in the game description, especially that "effective range" bit which is misleading.
I guess I am convinced to try Shredder ammo with quickscoping. Regular aim feels like it is pointless anyway.

In regards of bleeding. From what I observe about myself and the peeps I know, basically everyone gets that anti-bleeding Hunter trait. Doesn't it negate the Shredder benefit?(basically you can only one-shot-bleed kill blank slate hunters)

The effective range thingy is actually in game. You can mouseover the stats in the menu and get a description of what the stats mean.
Except the part where shredder increases the oneshots to the body.
Sadly we don't have a damage calculator ingame :<


Bloodless only reduces intense/heavy bleeding to light bleeding.

While that is nice to have, it doesn't change the oneshot potential of shredder.
However, bloodless can make someone survive if the target they barely survives with any health after being shot and needs to stop the bleeding asap.
This is pretty much is only relevant with basically point blank arm shots tho, which leaves the target with a fraction of a second to react to stop the bleed. Bloodless extends that period and shortens the stopping time.

If you go Nitro, you basically have to get Shredder as well.
The few downsides are more than worth the absolutely bonkers increase of oneshot potential.

[Henlooo]

nitro is op( shredder ammo only) , its just not meant for bots.

[Echorion]

It's a bit dated but here, this will help:
https://i.redd.it/l57kabay7k781.jpg

The main benefit of Nitro is that it can blast through stone/solid trees/brick walls/etc

[TheReverendGreen]

Publicado originalmente por Echorion:

It's a bit dated but here, this will help:
https://i.redd.it/l57kabay7k781.jpg

The main benefit of Nitro is that it can blast through stone/solid trees/brick walls/etc

wall banging is pretty useless if you can only shoot 6 times befor needing ammo lets be honest.

[Rollout]

ok now its official! Nitro does not just need a bayonett or Mace.... it needs a combat Shovel in in the front of it!

[Eldritch Panda]

For the new people here the Nitro is a meme gun. Probably the only gun that is legitimately broken if it wasn't for the purposely awful sights added to it.

That said it's fine where it is right now.

[Anatolius]

Publicado originalmente por ZIGGER:

But most of all, that scope is just disgustingly bad.

Apparently that's called 'balance' - it's incredibly powerful, but miserable to use.

[Stefan]

It used to be amazing :(
Then they added that scope

now its just aids

[YamaCUH]

Publicado originalmente por ZIGGER:

Very expensive, but I finally decided to try using for several matches in a row.
It is a confusing weapon. Yeah it is a one shot kill at short-medium distance, and it kills meatheads in 1 shot (most of the time).

However, it seems to be useless at long ranges. The problem is, with 250 meters worth of effective range. You SHOULD BE SAFE killing whatever the ♥♥♥ you want, because beyond around 150m, the target just becomes microscopic. It is unlikely you would even take that shot. Magnification is minimal and the gun sways like crazy.
Several games in a row, I couldn't even kill a guy with TWO SHOTS! And it mostly happens at around 150 meter distances, so the enemy model is decently large.
How can that be??? Is the 250m stat false?

-You can't see ♥♥♥♥ with Nitro's awful scope. It makes it incredibly bad for short-medium range.
-When you draw the weapon after sprinting, the ironsight is COMPLETELY blocked for like half a second.
-And you can't one shot kill targets at long range.
-Special ammo is almost completely pointless for this weapon (bleeding for what exactly??? explosive ammo for what exactly??? You 1-shot meatheads with regular ammo)
-It costs a ♥♥♥♥ ton, and ends up being as just a meme weapon.

But most of all, that scope is just disgustingly bad. And hilariously enough, I saw some people who say that the magnification it provides - makes it "OP one shot sniper rifle" lmao.

Probably because if you look up the rifles made and chambered in 700 nitro its an elephant gun... And yes they have iron sights..... THeyre not Chris Kyles sniper ♥♥♥♥♥... Second ik this is a game but you do realize that 250M is 750 feet? Most handgun ranges are 30 feet and rifle ranges 100 FEET... ♥♥♥♥♥ thats some confederate sharpshooter type ♥♥♥♥ to cry and moan that your target is out of actual eyesight.... Thats literally why they invented the rifle scope. In real life its $200 a round to shoot... The whole idea of this gun is a rich 1890s English Safari Hunter(Like the hunter in Jumanji).

The nitro is op ♥♥♥♥♥, the sights arent anyworse than the winfield aperture

[Ligma Male]

Publicado originalmente por YamaCUH:

Publicado originalmente por ZIGGER:

Very expensive, but I finally decided to try using for several matches in a row.
It is a confusing weapon. Yeah it is a one shot kill at short-medium distance, and it kills meatheads in 1 shot (most of the time).

However, it seems to be useless at long ranges. The problem is, with 250 meters worth of effective range. You SHOULD BE SAFE killing whatever the ♥♥♥ you want, because beyond around 150m, the target just becomes microscopic. It is unlikely you would even take that shot. Magnification is minimal and the gun sways like crazy.
Several games in a row, I couldn't even kill a guy with TWO SHOTS! And it mostly happens at around 150 meter distances, so the enemy model is decently large.
How can that be??? Is the 250m stat false?

-You can't see ♥♥♥♥ with Nitro's awful scope. It makes it incredibly bad for short-medium range.
-When you draw the weapon after sprinting, the ironsight is COMPLETELY blocked for like half a second.
-And you can't one shot kill targets at long range.
-Special ammo is almost completely pointless for this weapon (bleeding for what exactly??? explosive ammo for what exactly??? You 1-shot meatheads with regular ammo)
-It costs a ♥♥♥♥ ton, and ends up being as just a meme weapon.

But most of all, that scope is just disgustingly bad. And hilariously enough, I saw some people who say that the magnification it provides - makes it "OP one shot sniper rifle" lmao.

Probably because if you look up the rifles made and chambered in 700 nitro its an elephant gun... And yes they have iron sights..... THeyre not Chris Kyles sniper ♥♥♥♥♥... Second ik this is a game but you do realize that 250M is 750 feet? Most handgun ranges are 30 feet and rifle ranges 100 FEET... ♥♥♥♥♥ thats some confederate sharpshooter type ♥♥♥♥ to cry and moan that your target is out of actual eyesight.... Thats literally why they invented the rifle scope. In real life its $200 a round to shoot... The whole idea of this gun is a rich 1890s English Safari Hunter(Like the hunter in Jumanji).

The nitro is op ♥♥♥♥♥, the sights arent anyworse than the winfield aperture

Take meds schizo