Decent headphones that actually fix trash sound in this game?

[Adeptus Lebowski]

Are there any sound setups you guys have that actually give true directional sound in this game?

I use Dolby Atmos app and have a decent wireless headset but not top line though. In most other games i hear things with amazing clarity, especially in high production games like Red Dead 2 etc.

In this game it is mainly the footsteps that i struggle with. I can sometimes hear them but the distance is not accurate and the direction feels off. When there are multiple footsteps etc then forget it lol.

I've been told that using a decent headset with a 3.5mm jack into a decent soundcard is best but then others say that you only get true surround and best overall quality from USB headsets. Or is the sound in this game simply what it is and we are stuck with it?

Thanks

[Zig the Caver]

Hunt uses a binuaral engine so if you are using headphones with a some form of virtual surround processing the audio is getting processed twice and you are losing positional accuracy with every intermediate. Not too bad if you are using something like the GSX1000 which is seen by Windows as a 5.1 system but extremely bad if you are using something that is seen as stereo then using a VSS solution to up-mix the audio.

I used to be a huge fan of VSS back in the age of the original SB-Z with CMSS but with the engines in game now its not worth the investment at the cost of muddier audio.

I use a Mayflower Arc MK2 with Massdrop PC38X. Completely driverless and works perfect with any modern game.

[Adeptus Lebowski]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Abradolf Lincler:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lebowski Pro-Dude:

So i tried the expensive Beyerdynamics MMX 300... the overall sound is really bad. Everything ambience wise is too low and when gunshots or melee happen its too loud.

Your motherboard is old or has a really bad sound chipset ?, with amplifier ?. I mean highly doubt those beyerdynamic has "bad sound". Even if it is the "gaming line". Maybe you have to get used to "good audio" for the first time in your life (no joking).

Anyway I repeat, as an advise; don't buy anything but good stereo headphones. all that 7.1 is dogcrap. There are 7.x with speakers built in the cup but they are tiny and too close to your ear. Those headphones are expensives and you are just going to get 'fake sound'.

Up to you but there is no better audio than stereo headphones. I mean literaly, there is no better audio quality than a good studio headphones can give.

I recomended to you in before messages that for a nice headphones you need a decent enough sound card, either by itself or built in the motherboard (I have a 300$ MB with a proper sound card). AND (important) that your motherboard sound card should has amplifier, because you need it to handle that high impedance that good headphones has.

I'll keep tinkering wiht the sound but you need to check my pc specs if you think my mobo and sound card are old lol, no they are super new...

[El Tromp Wins]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lebowski Pro-Dude:

I'll keep tinkering wiht the sound but you need to check my pc specs if you think my mobo and sound card are old lol, no they are super new...

Then surely it has some amplifier.

Dude, believe me (also you can test it some days, this is amazon after all..), my recomendation: https://www.amazon.es/Beyerdynamic-770-PRO-Auriculares-estudio/dp/B0016MNAAI/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_es_ES=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=1WD1EGRE2YXLY&keywords=beyerdynamic&qid=1661186146&refinements=p_36%3A2493686031&rnid=2493681031&s=musical-instruments&sprefix=beyerdinamics%2Caps%2C105&sr=1-2

You don't need more.

And in you MB sound drivers you should have something like this: https://i.imgur.com/5CykILq.jpg

An amplifier mode.

That's it. I have perfect sound and loud.

And if you want the "perfect thing" at a really nice plrice, you can add something like this: https://www.amazon.es/Focusrite-AMS-SCARLETT-SOLO-3G-Scarlett-Solo-3rd/dp/B07QR6Z1JB

For 240 bucks you have a wombo combo there.

[aplecake]

Using the open Beyedynamics Tygr 300 R with a modmic. I will never go back to any headset from the big gaming brands. I feel totaly "helpless and blind" without my headset in any shooter now, especially in Hunt. Friend of mine is using the DT 990 Pro (open aswell). We both agree that the "open" was the gamechanger for us. We feel like we hear stuff others can't (like crouching or sneaking hunters, usually i can hear enemy teams and stop running before they hear me). When spectating mates, i want to bite my keyboard since they all seem to be totally deaf.

[El Tromp Wins]

Yeh I use the Modmic 5 too attached to the headphones. I recommend the Modmic too.

And that's totally true, speaking about music too. I mean with a proper hi-fi headphones you literaly hear sounds and ranges that with "normal" or worse (gaming) headphones you literaly cannot hear.

The first time I set my Beyerdynamic in my anus and play some pink floyd or something "complex" I literaly heard music for the first time, speaking about headphones. Before that I was using a sh1ttie logitech 40 euros ones, which was not bad at all if you are playing "sound doesn't matter game", but obviously much worse than a good one.

[XIII]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Revalopod:

I use Windows sonic, loudness equalisation and HyperX Cloud Revolver and I can tell direction quite easily. Distance is a bit harder to tell with loudness equalisation on but it really helps hearing footsteps especially crouched ones. Windows sonic I'm not sure what it does I've just had it turned on for ages

Holy ♥♥♥♥. Dude, youre getting a garbled, horrible mess out of your headphones. If you think thats fine, then you dont even know how anything is supposed to sound.

[XIII]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Con.RoXP:

First of all, there's a lot of outdated information here. Hunt fully supports surround since 2019[huntshowdown.fandom.com];
"One of the things we're excited about is that Hunt: Showdown uses Binaural Audio. All you need is a pair of stereo headphones to allow you to accurately tell where monsters and enemies are in 3D space. That's why we recommend to play with your headphones in stereo, but our spatialization solution also supports surround speaker setups like 5.1 and 7.1. "

Even though it talks about speakers, this still works very well with surround software for headphones.

I've been using Razer's surround software for more than 5 years (now using THX Spatial) and as such I'm fully used to surround and can't stand stereo anymore. Surround sound creates a soundscape while stereo (even the directional stereo Hunt uses which is still stereo at the end of the day) does not and hence it lacks depth. I also find stereo very unnatural in the way the audio cuts from one side to the other as well as how unbalanced it is. If something's on my right I don't need my right ear blasted while my left ear receives no sound. Irl your left ear will still pick up sound too from whatever's on your right.

Case in point, I've seen people complain about not being able to tell the distance of footsteps properly while I've never had this issue because with surround I have proper depth.
Furthermore, by doing that, surround makes smaller noises much easier to hear. So many times I've called out very distant crows or horses to my teammates and their response was "I didn't hear that".

As for headsets, imo no one needs to spend hundreds of € for studio headsets for gaming. I dislike the term "gaming headset" too but they are more than adequate for what they're meant to do. There are good and bad ones so research is still needed before making a purchase.
At the end of the day, for me personally, using my surround software (which also comes with an equalizer <-- very important) plays a vastly bigger role than the headsets themselves. Even the ones I'm using right now which I really like and I researched a lot before buying, they'd be worthless to me if I was to use them in stereo. Like I said, I can't stand stereo anymore and I'm not only talking about gaming.

Well, then Im sorry to break it to you, but youre still hearing stereo. You just run stereo through a bunch of trash and play it from a terrible gaming headset.

I mean have fun with that if you convinced yourself that that horror show is fine, but dont tell other peoples what is "good sound", or what a headphone is supposed to do.

Like seriously, after running sound through so much stuff, the end result is pretty much random. Even if you can still somewhat hear direction.

[Tristanius Spartanius]

Opprinnelig skrevet av XIII:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Con.RoXP:

First of all, there's a lot of outdated information here. Hunt fully supports surround since 2019[huntshowdown.fandom.com];
"One of the things we're excited about is that Hunt: Showdown uses Binaural Audio. All you need is a pair of stereo headphones to allow you to accurately tell where monsters and enemies are in 3D space. That's why we recommend to play with your headphones in stereo, but our spatialization solution also supports surround speaker setups like 5.1 and 7.1. "

Even though it talks about speakers, this still works very well with surround software for headphones.

I've been using Razer's surround software for more than 5 years (now using THX Spatial) and as such I'm fully used to surround and can't stand stereo anymore. Surround sound creates a soundscape while stereo (even the directional stereo Hunt uses which is still stereo at the end of the day) does not and hence it lacks depth. I also find stereo very unnatural in the way the audio cuts from one side to the other as well as how unbalanced it is. If something's on my right I don't need my right ear blasted while my left ear receives no sound. Irl your left ear will still pick up sound too from whatever's on your right.

Case in point, I've seen people complain about not being able to tell the distance of footsteps properly while I've never had this issue because with surround I have proper depth.
Furthermore, by doing that, surround makes smaller noises much easier to hear. So many times I've called out very distant crows or horses to my teammates and their response was "I didn't hear that".

As for headsets, imo no one needs to spend hundreds of € for studio headsets for gaming. I dislike the term "gaming headset" too but they are more than adequate for what they're meant to do. There are good and bad ones so research is still needed before making a purchase.
At the end of the day, for me personally, using my surround software (which also comes with an equalizer <-- very important) plays a vastly bigger role than the headsets themselves. Even the ones I'm using right now which I really like and I researched a lot before buying, they'd be worthless to me if I was to use them in stereo. Like I said, I can't stand stereo anymore and I'm not only talking about gaming.

Well, then Im sorry to break it to you, but youre still hearing stereo. You just run stereo through a bunch of trash and play it from a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ gaming headset.

I mean have fun with that if you convinced yourself thats fine, but dont tell other peoples what is "good sound", or what a headphone is supposed to do.

What do you guys understand under gaming headset and studio headphones?
Gaming headset can go from 20€ to 300€ or more.

[XIII]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Raubhamster:

What do you guys understand under gaming headset and studio headphones?
Gaming headset can go from 20€ to 300€ or more.

Well theres obviously good and bad either way. Gaming headphones/headsets are usually branded stuff from gaming companies like Razor or so. Hi-Fi headphones are just generic stereo headphones.

But you get pretty good wired Hi-Fi headphones for 80€. Not audiophile, but more than enough for most people and anything better would like require and external soundcard to be worth it.

Gaming headsets can be good, but you generally need to pay a LOT more to make it up. Like Ive seen 150€ gaming headsets that had way worse sound than my 90€ headphones. Also, a 15€ USB mic had better sound.
A 50€ gaming headset will, from my experience, be destroyed by 20€ Hifi Headphones. Its really bad.

Dont got experience, but heard people say that some of the 300+€ gaming headests are better. But you do pay like 2 or 3 times as much as otherwise.

[El Tromp Wins]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Raubhamster:

What do you guys understand under gaming headset and studio headphones?
Gaming headset can go from 20€ to 300€ or more.

In my opinion after have a few of both "sides", I like to say it on this way:

-Gaming headphones is a headphone that sound worse and it is less comfortable in head than a studio headphones, by doubling the price.

I mean if you compare the quatily of sound of a for example 200$ gaming ones with a 100$ hifi ones; 90% (100%) of the time the hifi one is going to sound better. Maybe same quality overall between both, supposing that those gaming ones are good ones.

Is like an universal rule for this.

I doubt very much that above a certain price range in hifi-studio headsets, and I wouldn't go much higher than $100, there are better gaming headsets. I would doubt it very much or those gaming headsets are made by proper sound brands like ath, senheiser, beyer, or whatever brand has those gaming lines (and they would inflate the price anyway because "it's g4m1ng OmG").

Or maybe you have to go to the top noch 400$ gaming headsets price to reach the quality of a 200$ studio headphone, literaly.

[Adeptus Lebowski]

So what EQ shall i use with my Beyerdynamic MMX 300?

I have tried Sonic Studio 3, Xonar app and Windows sonic and all just make things either sound worse or different and annoying.

For only those of you using Beyerdynamics headsets, what EQ app are you using? I have tried playing games with everything off and just raw sound from headset and some things sound good but to hear footsteps loud enough means that gunshots almost blow my ear drums ffs, i need a balance lol.

[El Tromp Wins]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lebowski Pro-Dude:

So what EQ shall i use with my Beyerdynamic MMX 300?

None. Why you shoul use EQ ¿?, you don't need to set any EQ.

You need to activate the amplifier on your sound drivers asd I explain to you (also those appears to have "only" 35 ohm, so maybe you don't need to amplify, test it anyway).

If you like when listening music you can play with the EQ that has to be precisaly on those sound drivers (anyway not recomended if you are listening the music in a high quality format like Flac, Wav or something hi-res formats like that). But not for gaming.

Have you read my before message on this page where I upload a screen of my drivers ¿?

[Adeptus Lebowski]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Abradolf Lincler:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lebowski Pro-Dude:

So what EQ shall i use with my Beyerdynamic MMX 300?

None.

You need to activate the amplifier on your sound drivers asd I explain to you (also those appears to have "Only" 35 ohm, so maybe you don't need to amplify, test it anyway).

If you like when listening music you can play with the EQ that has to be precisaly on those sound drivers. But not for gaming.

Have you read my before message in last page when I upload a screen of my drivers ¿?

I can either use the windows Realtek page or open Sonic Studio and select balanced or extreme, is that what you mean by amplifier? otherwise i have no idea how to get to it through my sound drivers but i do have Realtek drivers installed

[El Tromp Wins]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lebowski Pro-Dude:

I can either use the windows Realtek page or open Sonic Studio and select balanced or extreme, is that what you mean by amplifier? otherwise i have no idea how to get to it through my sound drivers but i do have Realtek drivers installed

My dude check the screenshot I made some posts above this please, I quoted you. I use Realtek too.

If you don't have a speaker icon in your taskbar search for a Realtek HD icon on your desktop or go to the realtek webpage and download it.

It must have some "Amp mode" or amplification mode for headphones or something like that.

Anyway don't use any EQ.

[Igneous]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Robin (Eschaton noob):

Logitech G533. I used those for this game and for GTFO and it helps a lot

Was just about to say these. They are so good they make it hard sometimes because they pick up too much if that makes sense