Hunt: Showdown 1896

Hunt: Showdown 1896

Zerachiel Sep 4, 2024 @ 9:56am
Why even have US servers at all?.....
Literally 40% of all players on NA servers are chinese at all times day or night. Didn't Lietek make a youtube video claiming they were going to do the opposite of that in this god awful patch?
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[PC]Roco45 Sep 4, 2024 @ 9:58am 
Game should have a hard ping restriction of 80 for regions and then a free for all sever where anyone with any ping can connect and play.
Zerachiel Sep 4, 2024 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by PCRoco45:
Game should have a hard ping restriction of 80 for regions and then a free for all sever where anyone with any ping can connect and play.

That would be a logical thing for them to do! (but that means they will never do it)
TAKYON Sep 4, 2024 @ 11:31am 
80's a bit too little, genuine people in the sticks with satellite internet and poor connections would be locked out, 100-120 is a reasonable number
Eric Clapped 'Em Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:34pm 
Yeah, it isn't just Chinese either. You get Aussies and South African players on top of the many EU players that have been on US East ever since people could could secondary regions.

This fools with their high ping make the game unenjoyable and unplayable. All horrible moments I have with the game regarding trades or hitreg always happens with players outside of the region they are supposed to be in. It's ridiculous and actually does happen often.

There are many times when I'll see half of the server on US East be not from NA. Full teams from Brazil and full teams from the EU. It's so frustrating because us players with low latency in our respective regions get punished because of the disadvantage high latency players give us.
[PC]Roco45 Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by TAKYON:
80's a bit too little, genuine people in the sticks with satellite internet and poor connections would be locked out, 100-120 is a reasonable number

80 is not too little. You shouldn't be playing an online PVP game if you aren't going to pay for proper connection. Which anyway, that's why I also said in the exact same comment that there should be an extra server with no ping limit so all you high ping exploiters can exploit eachother over on there. 100-120 is way too much for 2024, either get a proper provider, get put into high ping lobbies, or stick to singleplayer games, thanks.
Last edited by [PC]Roco45; Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:38pm
TAKYON Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:39pm 
trust me, high ping 150-160ms isn't really advantageous, just makes things a bit awkward sometimes

overall it's more or less neutral, win some, lose some
TAKYON Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by PCRoco45:
Originally posted by TAKYON:
80's a bit too little, genuine people in the sticks with satellite internet and poor connections would be locked out, 100-120 is a reasonable number

80 is not too little. You shouldn't be playing an online PVP game if you aren't going to pay for proper connection. Which anyway, that's why I also said in the exact same comment that there should be an extra server with no ping limit so all you high ping exploiters can exploit eachother over on there. 100-120 is way too much for 2024, either get a proper provider, get put into high ping lobbies, or stick to singleplayer games, thanks.
that's a cope if i've ever heard one. lemme just install a 100km fibre connection so i can get 20ms ping :steamthumbsup:
TAKYON Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:42pm 
for americans thats about 250 football fields and 3 mcdoubles
[PC]Roco45 Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by TAKYON:
trust me, high ping 150-160ms isn't really advantageous, just makes things a bit awkward sometimes

overall it's more or less neutral, win some, lose some

No it is. I've played on EU (I won't touch Asia and Russia as they are cheating conglomerates) to test high ping where I get around 130ms consistently and I have a clear advantage over everyone else, especially when it comes to peaking and weaving. I hit people who clearly can't even see me in front of them yet and all my shots register a full two seconds after I shoot and am already behind cover.

Originally posted by TAKYON:
Originally posted by PCRoco45:

80 is not too little. You shouldn't be playing an online PVP game if you aren't going to pay for proper connection. Which anyway, that's why I also said in the exact same comment that there should be an extra server with no ping limit so all you high ping exploiters can exploit eachother over on there. 100-120 is way too much for 2024, either get a proper provider, get put into high ping lobbies, or stick to singleplayer games, thanks.
that's a cope if i've ever heard one. lemme just install a 100km fibre connection so i can get 20ms ping :steamthumbsup:

No, the cope is all of your comments because you want to ping abuse since you can't play the game respectfully. Get gud.
TAKYON Sep 4, 2024 @ 1:57pm 
Peeks, yeah. But it isn't nearly a win button, and if you ever get peeked you've got the disadvantage, as far as weaving goes, don't think there's an ability to have an advantage in that.

You also don't just teleport out and in again, ping doesn't work like that. You're out on your screen for 5 seconds you're in that position on the server for 5 seconds as well, it's just delayed.


Honestly man I have the right to play the game I paid for just as you do, and if you didn't notice I did agree to having a lower ping limit. It isn't my fault that when I have time to play it's at 3am on my servers and there's 2 solos, a Chinese trio and a 15 minute queue with nothing else.

I understand that 250ms is too much but you also have to understand that 60-80ms isn't achievable for everyone even those in your own country just with bad connections. Nobody can install hundreds of km of fiber to their house in the middle of nowhere just for gaming
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[PC]Roco45 Sep 4, 2024 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by TAKYON:
Peeks, yeah. But it isn't nearly a win button, and if you ever get peeked you've got the disadvantage, as far as weaving goes, don't think there's an ability to have an advantage in that.

You also don't just teleport out and in again, ping doesn't work like that. You're out on your screen for 5 seconds you're in that position on the server for 5 seconds as well, it's just delayed.


Honestly man I have the right to play the game I paid for just as you do, and if you didn't notice I did agree to having a lower ping limit. It isn't my fault that when I have time to play it's at 3am on my servers and there's 2 solos, a Chinese trio and a 15 minute queue with. nothing else.

I understand that 250ms is too much but you also have to understand that 60-80ms isn't achievable for everyone even those in your own country just with bad connections. Nobody can install hundreds of km of fiber to their house in the middle of nowhere just for gaming

I don't really care tbh what you have to type. You ignored where I stated that an any ping server can be propped up for people like you. You ignored it because you directly benefit from ping abuse, which is counterproductive to every single post you've made.

If you can't achieve proper ping for an online PVP game then you should be put into high ping lobbies so you can stop ruining the game for everyone else and just ruin it for others like you.
TAKYON Sep 4, 2024 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by PCRoco45:
Originally posted by TAKYON:
Peeks, yeah. But it isn't nearly a win button, and if you ever get peeked you've got the disadvantage, as far as weaving goes, don't think there's an ability to have an advantage in that.

You also don't just teleport out and in again, ping doesn't work like that. You're out on your screen for 5 seconds you're in that position on the server for 5 seconds as well, it's just delayed.


Honestly man I have the right to play the game I paid for just as you do, and if you didn't notice I did agree to having a lower ping limit. It isn't my fault that when I have time to play it's at 3am on my servers and there's 2 solos, a Chinese trio and a 15 minute queue with. nothing else.

I understand that 250ms is too much but you also have to understand that 60-80ms isn't achievable for everyone even those in your own country just with bad connections. Nobody can install hundreds of km of fiber to their house in the middle of nowhere just for gaming

I don't really care tbh what you have to type. You ignored where I stated that an any ping server can be propped up for people like you. You ignored it because you directly benefit from ping abuse, which is counterproductive to every single post you've made.

If you can't achieve proper ping for an online PVP game then you should be put into high ping lobbies so you can stop ruining the game for everyone else and just ruin it for others like you.
"directly benefit" is a bit of a stretch. hunt servers barely work at the best of times and adding another for high pings in every region wouldn't solve anything except cost money.

if you can't kill the dude with 250ms with your 20ms sorry to say it isn't the ping that's the problem
Eric Clapped 'Em Sep 4, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by TAKYON:
trust me, high ping 150-160ms isn't really advantageous, just makes things a bit awkward sometimes

overall it's more or less neutral, win some, lose some
It puts lower latency players at a disadvantage ALWAYS. If you have high latency for whatever reason, you should not have an impact on other people's gameplay experience in a negative manner. However, in Hunt, that is in fact the case because of how they do hit registration. They trust the client, but verify on the server while taking latency into consideration to see if shots should hit or not.

That means even though you are at 250ms and the person in front of you is at 20ms, you are treated both the same to the server. Otherwise, the 250ms person would never be able to correctly land any shots as their client is going to always be significantly out of sync with the server. That is why people can run around corners and go into cover on their end, but on your end they are still in the open and the shot counts. That is why you can be dead on the server and to other players and still trade because you didn't die on your game yet as your client hasn't gotten that info due to high latency.

How is that not an advantage to you and a disadvantage to others? People get punished by playing correctly and going into cover, but still die because the game leaves them standing still on your client since your client can't get info from the server in a reasonable time. The game still rewards you despite you being completely out of sync with the server.

To go and argue anything different, that means you are A) and idiot, B) a troll, C) selfish prick, D) ignorant to how things work, or all of the above. Let's hope you are in the D column on this one, because everything you've said so far is completely wrong and untrue.
TAKYON Sep 4, 2024 @ 2:42pm 
yep just a troll mate. :steamthumbsup: seems like i did good work too
Eric Clapped 'Em Sep 4, 2024 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by TAKYON:
yep just a troll mate. :steamthumbsup: seems like i did good work too
Yeah, exactly. You know you are wrong which is why that is all you have to say. The only thing you did was show how ignorant you are of how the game works and how you actively go out of your way to ruin other people's gameplay experience.
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Date Posted: Sep 4, 2024 @ 9:56am
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