Event Traits

[puRe]

What do you guys think of the new traits?

Blast Sense: Reveal gunfire and explosions in dark sight.
Sounds fine to me.

Pain Sense: Reveal poisoned, bleeding and burning enemies in dark sight.
Before it was only for poison and therefore useless, so I guess it's okay now?

Gunrunner: Equip two 3-slot weapons
I think it's too powerful and should come with a drawback. Like -10% movement speed and +10% stamina drain for carrying two large weapons.

Greyhound: Additional effect faster running speed when carrying a bounty.
I don't like it at all and it should be the other way, like you run faster if you don't have a bounty and are within ~150 meters of a bounty carrier.

Surefoot: Increased crouch speed.
Sounds fine to me.

Beastface (with wilderness pact): You don't trigger animal sound traps.
As a solo I love this, although I wouldn't mind a small nerf like bumping directly into the animals still sets it off.

Lightfoot: Silent crouching for solos.
I don't like it at all, even though I benefit a lot from it as a solo. Having multiple solos crouching around in a compound is just bad and it goes against the basics of heavily relying on sounds. Together with the surefoot trait it's gonna be a nightmare!

[Barry MaCockiner]

First read, off the top of the head impression.

A strange list which pulls in different ways, quiet things quieter, loud things easier to track.
Is any kind of player sense disappearing? You're either the invisible man or you the predator from the movie.

Interesting combo of pacts to put in the game environment Hunt is set it.

Quite a lot of them feel like they're cranked to 110% unnecessarily.

I'm sure some players will love them.

[Old Shakerhand]

making no sound when crouching is not a good decision for Hunt in any circumstance and i say that as an almost exclusive solo player. carrying two 3 slot weapons is again something that was once a thing that got nerfed because it was very unbalanced, same with the fast burn speed. crytek's thought process seems to bring back the things that were once nerfed for good reasons. i never understood why they do these kinda things but it's getting more and more irrational for me.

i never picked poison sense so i don't mind a buff but now on paper it seems like it's gonna be over the top, i will test this however and make a firm opinion

[zopf76 ☭]

Originally posted by Woody Barrelson:

crytek's thought process seems to bring back the things that were once nerfed for good reasons. i never understood why they do these kinda things but it's getting more and more irrational for me.

It's quite simple, they used to develop a Game with Name "Hunt : Showdown" (= Extraction shooter, Niche genre, nothing for the wide Masse/no "big" Money) for Players, with Love and Dedication.

With "Hunt: Showdown 1896" they start, to "develop" a Game for the Arcade-Mainstream (= more Player/more Money), without Love and Dedication, only with their Eyes on hopefully making the big Money...

[zopf76 ☭]

(With the same Approach, "Ubisoft" is currently executing itself... )

[Weidmann]

Originally posted by puRe:

What do you guys think of the new traits?

Blast Sense: Reveal gunfire and explosions in dark sight.
Sounds fine to me.

Pain Sense: Reveal poisoned, bleeding and burning enemies in dark sight.
Before it was only for poison and therefore useless, so I guess it's okay now?

Gunrunner: Equip two 3-slot weapons
I think it's too powerful and should come with a drawback. Like -10% movement speed and +10% stamina drain for carrying two large weapons.

Greyhound: Additional effect faster running speed when carrying a bounty.
I don't like it at all and it should be the other way, like you run faster if you don't have a bounty and are within ~150 meters of a bounty carrier.

Surefoot: Increased crouch speed.
Sounds fine to me.

Beastface (with wilderness pact): You don't trigger animal sound traps.
As a solo I love this, although I wouldn't mind a small nerf like bumping directly into the animals still sets it off.

Lightfoot: Silent crouching for solos.
I don't like it at all, even though I benefit a lot from it as a solo. Having multiple solos crouching around in a compound is just bad and it goes against the basics of heavily relying on sounds. Together with the surefoot trait it's gonna be a nightmare!

Blast Sense: Reveal gunfire and explosions in dark sight.
I don't like more and more traits, which will help player to locate other players.. you should be able to find & hunt down players by hearing, seeing and expierience. Hunt was once a "hardcore" shooter. Nowadays there is no hardcore.. only casual extraction shooter with all these mechanics

solution: get rid of the trait!

Pain Sense: Reveal poisoned, bleeding and burning enemies in dark sight.
I don't like more and more traits, which will help player to locate other players.. you should be able to find & hunt down players by hearing, seeing and expierience. Hunt was once a "hardcore" shooter. Nowadays there is no hardcore.. only casual extraction shooter with all these mechanics.

solution: get rid of the trait!

Gunrunner: Equip two 3-slot weapons
we had 2 3-slot weapons back in the days. Actually i like the idea of 2 big rifles, because that isnt even a big problem in real life. BUT.. as you mentioned.. there should be a drawback by movement speed decrease. -10-20% should be ok. If hunt would have some "weight system" you could even block consumables if you decide to bring two big guns.

side note: i am ready for sparks/martini and long range winfield with fmj and levering.. will be same hell as back in the days.

solution: implement weight system into hunt or decrease movement speed

Greyhound: Additional effect faster running speed when carrying a bounty.
not a fan.. we don't need FASTER gameplay.. we need original gameplay.. slow, intelligent, always beware of your next step..

solution: for event ok, but besides.. keep it where the sun doesnt shine.

Surefoot: Increased crouch speed.
not a fan.. we don't need FASTER gameplay.. we need original gameplay.. slow, intelligent, always beware of your next step..

solution: for event ok, but besides.. keep it where the sun doesnt shine.

Beastface (with wilderness pact): You don't trigger animal sound traps.
i like the idea and this is what beastface should be about. maybe higher the trait costs and make it actually "normal" that you dont trigger anything.

Lightfoot: Silent crouching for solos.
♥♥♥♥ NO... This game is based on good sound development and gameplay. If you have good headphones you can shoot people even without seeing them. Give solos an "ninja"-advantage in a "western"-setting and without ANY noise.. just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

solution: for event ok, but besides.. keep it where the sun doesnt shine.

[puRe]

Originally posted by Weidmann:

Blast Sense: Reveal gunfire and explosions in dark sight.
I don't like more and more traits, which will help player to locate other players.. you should be able to find & hunt down players by hearing, seeing and expierience. Hunt was once a "hardcore" shooter. Nowadays there is no hardcore.. only casual extraction shooter with all these mechanics

solution: get rid of the trait!

Pain Sense: Reveal poisoned, bleeding and burning enemies in dark sight.
I don't like more and more traits, which will help player to locate other players.. you should be able to find & hunt down players by hearing, seeing and expierience. Hunt was once a "hardcore" shooter. Nowadays there is no hardcore.. only casual extraction shooter with all these mechanics.

solution: get rid of the trait!

I guess you're right. It moves the gameplay too much from audio to visual and the audio part is what makes Hunt so special.

Originally posted by Weidmann:

Gunrunner: Equip two 3-slot weapons
we had 2 3-slot weapons back in the days. Actually i like the idea of 2 big rifles, because that isnt even a big problem in real life. BUT.. as you mentioned.. there should be a drawback by movement speed decrease. -10-20% should be ok. If hunt would have some "weight system" you could even block consumables if you decide to bring two big guns.

side note: i am ready for sparks/martini and long range winfield with fmj and levering.. will be same hell as back in the days.

solution: implement weight system into hunt or decrease movement speed

Sounds a bit like in Insurgency Sandstorm, which has a general point system for everything.
You want a hard hitting primary gun with lots of modifications? No problem, here you go. There's not enough points for a side arm, grenades and armor left though.

Like every hunter can equip 10 points.
Rifle X costs 3 points, rifle Y costs 4 points...
Revolver X costs 2 points, revolver Y costs 3 points...
Medikit costs 1 point.
Knife costs 1 point, Throwing Axe costs 2 points, Spear costs 4 points...

And so on, you get the idea. It would help with the balancing too. A rifle feels good to use but is a bit too strong? Just increase the point cost so you can't bring a lot more besides it.