Cut that russian ping abusers off.

[Gyth]

Hi, I very often come across Russian players on a European server who are literally cheating by playing on too high ping, which makes it impossible to hit them.
I have absolutely nothing against the Russian nation (not even respect), as it is written in the rules everyone should have an equal chance during the game and playing the way they do (ping abuse) unfortunately tilts the scales of victory to their side.

Many may say "skill issue" Im over 1.5 kda.

[BlackWolf9988]

Skill issue, my buddy from saint petersburg has a 40 ping better than what people get from south italy or spain.

[bawz]

Publicado originalmente por Pineapples:

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

I'm not twisted anything,

I'm not saying you have, I'm saying that if I post the link then someone else will probably use it to spread misinformation.

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

just like you said, SERVER is the problem here.
And that why so many complain about servers, they experience the same issue.

Okay, so we're both in agreement that if a shot that should have hit ends up missing because of hitreg/desync issues then it has nothing to do with the player getting shot? Good. But that's not what you seemed to be saying at first.

I'm not here to win arguments, i'm sharing my experience, whatever the way the game works or its coded or whatever, the fact is, and noone can deny that the game has massive problems when players out side regions face each other. And all i was saying its precisely that. Even with standing still players, I see the model, i put my iron sight in the body, i shoot, and the hit does not register, i don't care how it works, all i care about is having a good experience.

[Tyler Durden]

how much high ping do you need to have to ping abuse? most sources believe that a ping from 50 to 100 is considered normal average, most russian players play with a ping that falls within the scope of this normal ping, sooooo no ping abuse?

[Pineapples]

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

noone can deny that the game has massive problems when players out side regions face each other.

Players having high ping causes more trades, yeah. And that does suck when it happens, but the player with high ping isn't happy about it either. Not that it even really applies to Russian players. From what I've seen, they typically have low enough ping that it rarely factors into anything. People seem to forget that trades happen all the time, even when both players have low ping.

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

And all i was saying its precisely that.

That's not all you were saying, unless I'm somehow misinterpreting what you meant when you said "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to hit register against players from this regions."

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

Even with standing still players, I see the model, i put my iron sight in the body, i shoot, and the hit does not register, i don't care how it works, all i care about is having a good experience.

That has nothing to do with their ping. I don't know what causes hit registration issues when they do occur, but blaming the other player is simply ignorant. If that does genuinely happen to you often(and you've checked a Shadowplay clip closely to confirm that your aim didn't just move a frame or two before firing, which can easily happen) then there must be something else going on. Either you're getting packet loss or the server's messed up.

Publicado originalmente por Pajiloy Chap-chap:

I have a priority server Russia.It's not my fault that I get thrown on a European server,

You don't have to select a secondary region. You can select Russia only if that's all you want to play on.

[PrestigePooper]

All my friends and I play from Russia only on European servers, for 5+ years now. None of us have more than 40 ping. 70% of the population of Russia live in its European part, Moscow, St. Petersburg and other cities have 30-40 ping in Europe. This issue has been raised many times by famous streamers Archie and Rachta, and they all said that Russians are not pingabusers. So you say, why don't we play on our "Russian" servers? First and foremost. The Chinese. There are 70%+ of them on the Russian server. It is impossible to play against them. They are prohibited from cheating on their servers by law in the country. They come to us. They don't care that they have 200+ ping, but they have cheats. Well, as for the fact that many Russians are cheaters, that's a debatable thing. Secondly, and also importantly, the Russian servers at Crytek are very bad.
There are a lot of Russian-speaking people all over the world. Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc. All these CIS countries can speak and write in Russian, in Cyrillic. And if you take all these countries, then the people living in them will be almost more than India, China. That's why it seems that there are a lot of cheaters. Just a percentage ratio.
So here's the question. I have 30 ping in Europe, should I go play on my Russian server, where there are only Chinese?

[Tuuka]

Russians have a quiite normal ping on EU servers, its just your xenophobia thats the real issue

[Duncan.Idaho]

Publicado originalmente por Pineapples:

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

noone can deny that the game has massive problems when players out side regions face each other.

Players having high ping causes more trades, yeah. And that does suck when it happens, but the player with high ping isn't happy about it either. Not that it even really applies to Russian players. From what I've seen, they typically have low enough ping that it rarely factors into anything. People seem to forget that trades happen all the time, even when both players have low ping.

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

And all i was saying its precisely that.

That's not all you were saying, unless I'm somehow misinterpreting what you meant when you said "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to hit register against players from this regions."

Publicado originalmente por bawz:

Even with standing still players, I see the model, i put my iron sight in the body, i shoot, and the hit does not register, i don't care how it works, all i care about is having a good experience.

That has nothing to do with their ping. I don't know what causes hit registration issues when they do occur, but blaming the other player is simply ignorant. If that does genuinely happen to you often(and you've checked a Shadowplay clip closely to confirm that your aim didn't just move a frame or two before firing, which can easily happen) then there must be something else going on. Either you're getting packet loss or the server's messed up.

Publicado originalmente por Pajiloy Chap-chap:

I have a priority server Russia.It's not my fault that I get thrown on a European server,

You don't have to select a secondary region. You can select Russia only if that's all you want to play on.

Its kind of crazy how hard stuck some players are in their bad assumptions. You can tell them how it works and they will still say "no, it happens... I don't know how it happens but it does and it IS because of my opponents high latency."
Then you can further explain how the way the game works precludes that possiblility and instead of considering your explaination will simply flat say "nope, I don't care how it works."....

While admitting they DON'T know how the game works, DON'T care how the game works... They just "know" (who knows how) they are right.

Just crazy when we live in the day of youtube videos that can explain almost anything to you if you take a small amount of time and look...

Cheers to you for trying to help.

Good luck and good Hunts.

[Duncan.Idaho]

Publicado originalmente por Tuuka:

Russians have a quiite normal ping on EU servers, its just your xenophobia thats the real issue

Even that does not make sense. I don't know what causes this except to say when they don't understand how a thing works and they only go on their small, limited view of it. AND they are a-ok with assuming things. This happens...

[SirSill]

Imagine thinking that 30ms difference is vital. Many EU players have higher ping on EU than Russians.

Git gud

[SavAr]

Publicado originalmente por Darth_Angeal:

Maybe 1/7 from russia is part of europe.

Maybe like 50% of the russian population lives in that 1/7 part.

While i agree that they´ve their own server to play on, i highly doubt the ping is an issue for the most of them. It´s more of an issue that they´re worldwide on the 2nd rank of cheating and mostly play on the EU server because games open quicker and their own server is infested with chinese cheaters.

But hey... yesterday a met a german cheater with wallhacks and aimbot aswell because EAC sucks nuts.

Can you see the source of the information that players from Russia are in second place in using third-party software?
Or is this your personal belief?
There are many regions in Russia... In the European part of Russia, the ping is 30-50 with Europe, but in the Far Eastern part, naturally, it will be >100.
I would be happy to play only on Russian servers, but sometimes I get assigned to European ones.
Do you want to play only with Europeans on half-empty servers?

[Washboard]

Tbh if crytek implemented a hard ping limit IN GAME that'd be enough to deal with the ping-abusing sweatlords.. Go over 100ms you're frozen in place until you're under 100ms.

Even with the crappy leastweb servers this should be achievable for anyone in the region they're supposed to be playing in.

[Oobaneko]

You do not even know how high ping put you in huge disadvantage.

[SonicDoom™]

I think its a case of poor servers we know that Crytek uses Leaseweb which are far from cutting edge. Technically Ping abuse cant exist (if your behind latency wise then your just behind its as simple as that) However sub_par server performance in conjunction with a low tick-rate means that over a certain ping the server will not update your current position as close to real-time as it should, the higher the ping the worse that becomes.
So basically your high ping enemy can actually be slightly to the right or to the left of where your actually seeing them, this doesn't only affect their movement but also world interactions including audio, hence the absence of footstep sounds occasionally on high speed movement.

[Hey Siri]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/594650/discussions/8/4517757938657959316/

[†SaintOfShadows†]

Publicado originalmente por SonicDoom™:

I think its a case of poor servers we know that Crytek uses Leaseweb which are far from cutting edge. Technically Ping abuse cant exist (if your behind latency wise then your just behind its as simple as that) However sub_par server performance in conjunction with a low tick-rate means that over a certain ping the server will not update your current position as close to real-time as it should, the higher the ping the worse that becomes.
So basically your high ping enemy can actually be slightly to the right or to the left of where your actually seeing them, this doesn't only affect their movement but also world interactions including audio, hence the absence of footstep sounds occasionally on high speed movement.

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