Mammon's Gulch is the worst map

[Buhdy]

The angles on this map are absolutely brain dead, some dude can just be camping inside, I'm watching 20 different angles just to get shot through a random crack that should never exist on any map in any game. All because these devs can't align anything correctly. Desalle is 10x better than this junk and that's saying something.

[El Tromp Wins]

Skill issue there.

[Kryptic]

You forgot the part that this game is complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and you will insta die to one of 2 weapons

[IFaceCamp]

Map has way less cracks in buildings than old maps

[Mecharion]

Compounds are to huge. The mines suck ass and you literally see nothing because of a million trees/stones.

But it looks cool...

First two maps are the best gameplay-wise.

[Kimo]

For me the map is not a problem. There are so much opening and path, if you complain about camping it's because you don't know the map and how to approach compound.

The biggest problem is how messed up the fire is, the bear traps, etc. Instead of releasing new weapons, they should work on balancing them and not in a dumb way like they did for the flash grenade. Before, it was too strong so ? What did they do ? They demolished it to the point you almost never see one in game.

[Ben10cm]

The verticality of the map forces players to use more than one brain cell to navigate. Horrible

[LegendNoMore]

Loser!

[LegendNoMore]

Your mum mate!

[Barry MaCockiner]

It's a great map, looks better, more interesting Poi's everything.

Curiously though, it looks and plays a bit like a snipers paradise, which I though they were trying to limit? I mean bullet drop yes, but unless you are miles away it's not really a factor.

[Baphomeat]

Originally posted by Barry MaCockiner:

It's a great map, looks better, more interesting Poi's everything.

Curiously though, it looks and plays a bit like a snipers paradise, which I though they were trying to limit? I mean bullet drop yes, but unless you are miles away it's not really a factor.

This is a common misconception I see people having. They even said it themselves the intent was to limit those longer ranges fights and bring battles within 200m. It was never meant to cut down on snipers... infact they added in the crossbow with a scope doubling down on sniper rats.

This whole update is a sniper rats dream. If they wanted to cut down on the whole playstyle they would have... but they made an entire map dedicated to it.

No... they did it so that you can't have those insane 200m shots using a sparks and such anymore. That's all it was.

[Barry MaCockiner]

Originally posted by Baphomeat:

Originally posted by Barry MaCockiner:

It's a great map, looks better, more interesting Poi's everything.

Curiously though, it looks and plays a bit like a snipers paradise, which I though they were trying to limit? I mean bullet drop yes, but unless you are miles away it's not really a factor.

This is a common misconception I see people having. They even said it themselves the intent was to limit those longer ranges fights and bring battles within 200m. It was never meant to cut down on snipers... infact they added in the crossbow with a scope doubling down on sniper rats.

This whole update is a sniper rats dream. If they wanted to cut down on the whole playstyle they would have... but they made an entire map dedicated to it.

No... they did it so that you can't have those insane 200m shots using a sparks and such anymore. That's all it was.

Yeh you are right the stoopid long shots are probably not a thing anymore, but given the verticality and rock formations, trees etc it's actually promoting scoped weapons somewhat.

You will rule the bullet drop on iron sights all day, and still be relatively safe.

[El Tromp Wins]

Originally posted by Baphomeat:

Originally posted by Barry MaCockiner:

It's a great map, looks better, more interesting Poi's everything.

Curiously though, it looks and plays a bit like a snipers paradise, which I though they were trying to limit? I mean bullet drop yes, but unless you are miles away it's not really a factor.

This is a common misconception I see people having. They even said it themselves the intent was to limit those longer ranges fights and bring battles within 200m. It was never meant to cut down on snipers... infact they added in the crossbow with a scope doubling down on sniper rats.

This whole update is a sniper rats dream. If they wanted to cut down on the whole playstyle they would have... but they made an entire map dedicated to it.

No... they did it so that you can't have those insane 200m shots using a sparks and such anymore. That's all it was.

Since the release I would say I got killed only like 50 meters or below. So that sounds like if you are killed by snipers usually (since you call it a "sniper rat paradise") is that you suxx at playing or using cover/moving around the map.

Skill issue over there dude, git gud.

[HighPingTimmy14#FixTF2]

yep. anotha skill issue

[Janitor Kiv]

Personally I think it's actually the best map, I hope they are able to add up some details like this to the old ones

[Doods]

Is it possible to do a more whinning post than that ?