Hunt: Showdown 1896

Hunt: Showdown 1896

Evermore Apr 9, 2024 @ 2:59pm
2KD and more CHEATERS? multi VAC BAN
Think that most people at 2KD and above are probably cheaters? YES

It's always the same Chinese or Russian profiles with crazy KD either new accounts with 1 to 3 games or old accounts with 250 games but with multiple Vac Ban or players with very powerful cheats who will never be detected.

I'd be for a policy as soon as you have a vac ban on a multiplayer game all multiplayer games are banned.

A lot of people are delusional no there is no cheat you suck believe me I have a good level in general good CS experience since 1.0 with a faceit lvl 10 there is a big big cheat problem in this game especially but also in all competitive multiplayer games.
The cheaters in this game are difficult to banish because there are too many factors that are to their advantage but the perfect prefires the wallbangs the perfect grenades the backstab the info there is no sound no noise but its people at 2KD+ have a game sense worthy of a golden zodiac knight the 6th sense


Already reduce the abusive ping this will avoid the considerable advantages at the time of CS 1.6 as soon as you exceed the 80+ 100 ping it was unplayable you had hellish rollbacks you couldn't play
Now it's the opposite, the worse your ping the more of an advantage you're going to have That's the sad reality

What do you think, share your opinions and experience?
(Once a cheater, always a cheater)
Last edited by Evermore; Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:02pm
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Lokye Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:30pm 
i agree but use fullstop sometimes. pls.
Smurf accounts could easily be way above 2.0 KD. If they played for 1000s of hours on another account then would easily maintain a 2+ KDA

They ain't cheating though if they purchased another copy of the game.

It's sad that people do it but it's common in all MP games unfortunately.

Stats for online gaming is a great thing but also one of the worst.

Lots of people the fun part of the game is having high stats but that's the world we live in now. Everything is about likes or reactions to something they do online
Echorion Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:57pm 
Ngl my kda is 1.33 but if I made a smurf it would probably be like 1.7 or so.

Given that I imagine anyone with a 1.5 KDA and a lot of hours who has improved and just isn't sitting on a huge pile of deaths from thousands of previous hours- could probably have a 2.0 KDa rather easily on a smurf.

More so if they exploited solo queue which lets you lower the skill range of your opponents.
Bush wookies with spitzer can have absurd KDA rates but still be terrible at the actual game too.

KDA does not mean as much as people think it does; and most Hunt Veterans know this.

So yeah, while Hunt has cheaters absolutely- assuming most people over 2,0 are cheating is silly, more of them are likely smurfs stroking their epeen, solo players, or something along those lines.
Last edited by Echorion; Apr 9, 2024 @ 3:59pm
Originally posted by Echorion:
Ngl my kda is 1.33 but if I made a smurf it would probably be like 1.7 or so.

Given that I imagine anyone with a 1.5 KDA and a lot of hours who has improved and just isn't sitting on a huge pile of deaths from thousands of previous hours- could probably have a 2.0 KDa rather easily on a smurf.

More so if they exploited solo queue which lets you lower the skill range of your opponents.
Bush wookies with spitzer can have absurd KDA rates but still be terrible at the actual game too.

KDA does not mean as much as people think it does; and most Hunt Veterans know this.

So yeah, while Hunt has cheaters absolutely- assuming most people over 2,0 are cheating is silly, more of them are likely smurfs stroking their epeen, solo players, or something along those lines.

Agreed I was in defecit of about 800 deaths as I played solo for the longest time long before solo necro was a thing. It took me years to recoup and get to a true 1.0 kd but my kda is only 1.25 as you don't really get assists to pad it up playing solo.
Echorion Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:25pm 
To put things in perspective. This week I killed 56 more players than times I've died.
My kda went up 0.01, and this is the first time It's gone up while having that growth rate in like 2 months of playing.

So imagine if I was playing on a fresh account without like thousands and thousands of deaths from when I was learning on it.
Evermore Apr 9, 2024 @ 4:29pm 
I hear you ok, if you smurf but how to keep your KD as high knowing that the 5 and 6 star mmr have a lot of cheat.

Of course there are smurfs but that's not the problem, guys have thousands of hours, they're not smurfs anymore
Why have a Smurf here Explain to me? if you have a main account
There's no ranking like on Counter strike, for me the new accounts with big big KD are guys who got banned for cheat, I don't see it any other way

Most people with 2KD aren't just smurfs I'm usually talking about guys with vac bans
Mmr 6 is only games against Russian Chinese with minimum of 3 4KD and vac bans... It's unplayable...
There are more cheaters than you think, really
Brad1891 Apr 9, 2024 @ 5:56pm 
You're setting the bar really low if you think anyone above 2KD is a confirmed cheater. Chinese and russian are more likely to be suspicious players i'll give you that and new accounts are cringe but 2kd... That's ridiculous. You aren't a serious gamer and or you have no talent at FPS games. I'm sorry but that's obvious. From being a brand new player once i got to 5-6*; i've never been a 4* again. I mainly used springfield bleed for my first few months. I'm going to guess you live in 3-4* and are salty at the MMR system. Not anyone with a decent KD.
Chiwiwis Apr 9, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
Wish I could share the video I just recorded. It is just brutal how much cheating goes on in this game on PC. Might need go back to console. Seems like little to no control over this stuff.
Originally posted by Hellya234:
Wish I could share the video I just recorded. It is just brutal how much cheating goes on in this game on PC. Might need go back to console. Seems like little to no control over this stuff.

Paste in your game review it's untouchable there 👍
Evermore Apr 9, 2024 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by RIP Lightfoot:
You're setting the bar really low if you think anyone above 2KD is a confirmed cheater. Chinese and russian are more likely to be suspicious players i'll give you that and new accounts are cringe but 2kd... That's ridiculous. You aren't a serious gamer and or you have no talent at FPS games. I'm sorry but that's obvious. From being a brand new player once i got to 5-6*; i've never been a 4* again. I mainly used springfield bleed for my first few months. I'm going to guess you live in 3-4* and are salty at the MMR system. Not anyone with a decent KD.

What are you talking about, I said above that I have been playing since 1999 at CS until today I am lvl 10 faceit, I have seen the cheat evolve as well as all the unimaginable cheats what are you talking about? If you think that Hunt is a reference in terms of FPS it's a joke u kidding me xd (61 min of Counter strike you played lol)
I'm in MMR 5 6 and my lobbies are with and against Russian Chinese with big KD

The big problem is its people who come to abuse the ping advantage cheats..
The game has client-server synchronization problems, a lot of freez desync deconnection who often comeback in the forum.
Player trade kill I've never seen it especially when the enemy is dead for 1 second and you die after that
It is anything in any fps normally coded it cannot happen..
Last edited by Evermore; Apr 9, 2024 @ 6:47pm
Echorion Apr 9, 2024 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by Desolation Deez Nuts:
Originally posted by Echorion:
To put things in perspective. This week I killed 56 more players than times I've died.
My kda went up 0.01, and this is the first time It's gone up while having that growth rate in like 2 months of playing.

So imagine if I was playing on a fresh account without like thousands and thousands of deaths from when I was learning on it.

You just described what a smurf account is, congrats

Reading isn't your strong suit, is it? Like, what was the very first thing I said xD
smh dude
Last edited by Echorion; Apr 9, 2024 @ 7:18pm
Deadly2Die Apr 10, 2024 @ 12:34am 
smurfaccounts should be illigale too !!
Noxx Apr 10, 2024 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by SoEvermore:
I hear you ok, if you smurf but how to keep your KD as high knowing that the 5 and 6 star mmr have a lot of cheat.

Of course there are smurfs but that's not the problem, guys have thousands of hours, they're not smurfs anymore
Why have a Smurf here Explain to me? if you have a main account
There's no ranking like on Counter strike, for me the new accounts with big big KD are guys who got banned for cheat, I don't see it any other way

Most people with 2KD aren't just smurfs I'm usually talking about guys with vac bans
Mmr 6 is only games against Russian Chinese with minimum of 3 4KD and vac bans... It's unplayable...
There are more cheaters than you think, really

How to keep your KD high even though you play in 5 and 6 stars? Well that's easy, kill more people than you die, simple as that.

There are multiple ways to increase the KD (though KD doesn't matter in this game). You can play like a rat and only third party people, play only scope and keep your range, only camp with shotguns inside and so on. It's boring most of the time but a possibility to increase your KD. Some people here derank or simply play solo and therefore get matched into easier lobbies which also inflates your KD. So having a KD above 2 isn't really hart to get nor to maintain.

I'm also playing 5 and 6 star lobbies and don't encounter that many cheaters at all. In roughly 3k hours I came across 7-8 cheaters which all got banned. Sure you have some people with sus shots, but sus doesn't mean that they're cheating. You don't know what kind of intel they have through communication, wild guesses, maybe even a beetle flying high in the air or whatever. People instantly jump to conclusions that people are cheating while in reality they often were simply just better. And it's hard to accept this fact for some.

Also there's multiple reasons on why you can get a smurf account, not just because you got caught cheating. Desolation Deez Nuts made an example that he has a smurf account for teaching his friends, simply put you don't have high MMR there and therefore your friends that are new to the game don't get matched against crazy tryhards (for example). I have a second account because I won the game key in a stream and wanted to give it to a friend so we could play the game together. However he wasn't interested in the game so I ended up keeping the game key for myself. I only used the second account if I wanted to test out different loadouts since we didn't have a shooting range back then and now I'm dedicating it to play on it only as a solo and prestige my way up to P100 there, kinda as a challenge. Some streamers have secondary accounts so they don't get recognised by the players (changing your name can be helpful but not if you have them on your friends list for example).

Of course some people create smurfs because they want to test out cheats, got banned and need a new account and stuff like that as well. So the reason to have alternative accounts exist, though they vary depending on the reason why you would want to have a second account.

And yes, people with vac bans are likely cheaters, though again it depends on how they got the vac ban. There was a user here in these forums quite a while ago that basically said "I can manage to give you a vac ban, even without you using any cheats. All you need to do is join me in a cod lobby (don't know the exact game title anymore) and you get a vac ban after two minutes easily." So if it's that easy to get a vac ban, even without using cheats yourself, that kinda does invalidate the argument of "every vac ban player is a cheater 100%". Sadly I don't remember the users name, you could test it out for yourself then.

Lastly, no there aren't that many cheaters in 5 and 6 star lobbies. They do exist but aren't as frequent, that has been my experience from this game. Either that or I have to be crazily lucky that I don't encounter them while you're doing so.

And since you're so proud of your faceit level (as if that would mean anything really) I did play R6 on several ESL tournaments, so I know what I'm talking about too (as if that would matter though). Cheers.
76561198277051350 Apr 10, 2024 @ 1:38am 
There is no need to talk here about the smurf account and how easy it is to play on them. You can only play with your feet the first time, then the curve sbmm will throw you to 6* cheaters and you will quickly lower your KDA.
Evermore Apr 10, 2024 @ 2:13am 
Your problem Nox is that you hide your face, games are infested with cheaters whether you like it or not, that's how it gets to an elo, it's full of cheaters like on CS for example on the new prime game mode arrived at 20K of elo 1 game out of 2 and where every game you have spinbot cheats, R6, Valorant ok it's less, but much more on survival games especially escape from tarkov you have cheats, in high elo for competitive games it's like that it's factual and yes it gives me a legitimacy because it's to prove to you that I'm not a noob who cries cheat for nothing,
I know what I'm talking about, especially on Faceit, I've been invited to participate in Overwatch to ban cheaters and I have a few hundred hours of watching cheaters so I know how to recognize one when it is in general.

You're a liar, you're delusional
I also participated in the 1st Go4 on r6 but this game was a joke it ended up being destroyed by the cheaters but you will tell me that no the cheaters could even DDoS the people in the game so the server was not protected so please
Hunt unfortunately is not an exception are anti cheat and a vast joke when you see that valorant with a powerful anticheat there are quite a few cheaters at the top elo you can only admit either your beasts and I apologize be delusional and also peacefully

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