F*ck Shotbolts

[Spiffyo™]

So how are they not a direct upgrade again? May have been an armshot with normal crossbow, but shotbolt's current function is not balanced, kinda like FMJ and HV.

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[TheBaumfaeller]

Shotbolt is slower, causes no bleed and is not silenced.
The advantages are there but it is not a direct upgrade at all.

[Spiffyo™]

Originally posted by TheBaumfaeller:

Shotbolt is slower, causes no bleed and is not silenced.
The advantages are there but it is not a direct upgrade at all.

slower is as much of a downside as it is on FMJ which is barely, no bleed means sh*t when you can OHKO up to 50M, and it's silence until it hits impact.

[ShadyYogaInstructor]

Originally posted by Spiffyo™:

Originally posted by TheBaumfaeller:

Shotbolt is slower, causes no bleed and is not silenced.
The advantages are there but it is not a direct upgrade at all.

slower is as much of a downside as it is on FMJ which is barely, no bleed means sh*t when you can OHKO up to 50M, and it's silence until it hits impact.

If you think a velocity downgrade is not a downside, you aren't playing high elo guaranteed lmfao

[Spiffyo™]

Originally posted by ShadyYogaInstructor:

Originally posted by Spiffyo™:

slower is as much of a downside as it is on FMJ which is barely, no bleed means sh*t when you can OHKO up to 50M, and it's silence until it hits impact.

If you think a velocity downgrade is not a downside, you aren't playing high elo guaranteed lmfao

Oh boy I sure do need to aim a little more to the left then normal to have better damage where I'd normally fight with compact/medium ammo. If you're going to snipe with your weapon then why the hell aren't you taking High Velocity?

[Pure Grease]

cons :
slower velocity
less ammo
quicker drop off
costs more

pros:
can 1-tap at farther ranges
can penetrate walls
silent shot

that's about it. They do still have to hit you in the torso area to 1 tap though, and the penetration loses damage faster than most shotguns after it goes through a wall. Personally I prefer to run raw bolts most of the time.

EDIT: your screenshot... he killed you at 0 meters... a regular crossbow bolt will kill you if it hits arm/leg at 0m, only if he shot your foot would you not die immediately, but you'd bleed within 1 second still. Go try it in the shooting range.

[Mr. Figgles]

If it was so insanely good, everyone would be using it. This is not the case, and never will be. It's still a slow projectile that requires a direct hit for a kill. It's got a high skill floor and ceiling in order to use effectively (When compared to literally any weapon that uses bullets.) which is why you rarely see it being used.

As for being a "Direct upgrade"? I'd actually agree with that. If you can get good with them, they're 100% a direct upgrade imo. But again, there's that skill barrier that keeps people away from it.

Either way, nobody really actually uses it. I can probably count on one hand the amount of times i've died to shotbolt in my almost 1.5k hours played.

[Spiffyo™]

Originally posted by Mr. Figgles:

If it was so insanely good, everyone would be using it. This is not the case, and never will be. It's still a slow projectile that requires a direct hit for a kill. It's got a high skill floor and ceiling in order to use effectively (When compared to literally any weapon that uses bullets.) which is why you rarely see it being used.

As for being a "Direct upgrade"? I'd actually agree with that. If you can get good with them, they're 100% a direct upgrade imo. But again, there's that skill barrier that keeps people away from it.

Either way, nobody really actually uses it. I can probably count on one hand the amount of times i've died to shotbolt in my almost 1.5k hours played.

Every crossbow user I've fought this event had it equipped, and even if it's negativity bias clouding my judgement the ones that likely weren't using it just haven't unlocked it.

[Spiffyo™]

Originally posted by Pure Grease:

cons :
slower velocity
less ammo
quicker drop off
costs more

pros:
can 1-tap at farther ranges
can penetrate walls
silent shot

that's about it. They do still have to hit you in the torso area to 1 tap though, and the penetration loses damage faster than most shotguns after it goes through a wall. Personally I prefer to run raw bolts most of the time.

EDIT: your screenshot... he killed you at 0 meters... a regular crossbow bolt will kill you if it hits arm/leg at 0m, only if he shot your foot would you not die immediately, but you'd bleed within 1 second still. Go try it in the shooting range.

Thats because the explosion occurs on impact, we shot at about the same time which means he fired at 7M. And with testing on the Shooting Range, you can oneshot reliably with Shot Bolt at 37M where the bolt doesn't at that range less it's a headshot.