Hunt: Showdown 1896

Hunt: Showdown 1896

Seldom 1. dec. 2023 kl. 2:09
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Don't buy this game
It used to be one of my favorite FPS, but over the past 2 years the game has been ruined by cheaters, changes no one asked for that completely destroyed matchmaking, performance and game economy, increasingly more cancerous meta, questionable design choices and the devs' refusal to listen to their dedicated playerbase.

I would have recommended it 3 years ago, but not now. Such a shame too, because it used to be a cool shooter with a unique atmosphere, slower-paced, tactical gameplay and insanely fun, drawn out firefights. However, the devs wanted to appeal to a run-and-gun, CoD kiddie audience and have essentially turned the game into CoD: Wild West Warfare over the past 2 years. It's disgusting.

Fighting other people is no longer fun. The new meta is absolute cancer where every enemy team brings 9 beetles and "drones" you until you either die or run away. If you play with your buddy, you don't even get to pick him up, because the enemy team will burn his corpse faster than you can get to it. And they can do it safely too by using a fire beetle. Everyone either uses shotguns which are one shot, one kill up to 20 meters or a sniper/long range rifle, and because of that you are also forced into one of these playstyles too. Medium range engagements are extremely rare and the guy with a shotgun always wins those anyway.

This is not the game we paid money for.

[Original post changed on 03/21/2025 to deter people from buying this garbage game]
Sidst redigeret af Seldom; 20. mar. kl. 21:02
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Peter Panzy 3. dec. 2023 kl. 8:22 
@Noxx: Very well said sir, on both of those last posts you made.
Bastard Man 3. dec. 2023 kl. 8:35 
Crytek, for the love of god, when are you going to fix the audio bug? I have been getting 50% audio for months, I have given up playing entirely because the game is completely unplayable with the audio in such garbage condition, I want to play the game we all love with my friends but your abject laziness and incompetence have made this game an unplayable mess.

WHEN. IS. THE. AUDIO. BUG. GETTING. FIXED. Communicate with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ playerbase for crying out loud.
Duncan.Idaho (Udelukket) 3. dec. 2023 kl. 8:38 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Bastard Man:
Crytek, for the love of god, when are you going to fix the audio bug? I have been getting 50% audio for months, I have given up playing entirely because the game is completely unplayable with the audio in such garbage condition, I want to play the game we all love with my friends but your abject laziness and incompetence have made this game an unplayable mess.

WHEN. IS. THE. AUDIO. BUG. GETTING. FIXED. Communicate with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ playerbase for crying out loud.

If I were them this would NOT encourage me to reach out to you. Good thing they are professionals at dealing with people... and not me.

Have you tried tech support friend?



Oprindeligt skrevet af Duncan.Idaho:
...the game is completely unplayable...
By the way, Hunt is completely playable here. We are not all effected apparently. Might want to mention that when you give them the details. It could be a clue to the source of the problem.
Sidst redigeret af Duncan.Idaho; 3. dec. 2023 kl. 8:46
n3pix 3. dec. 2023 kl. 8:44 
As an average Hunt enjoyer, I support the message of this post!
Peter Panzy 3. dec. 2023 kl. 8:46 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Duncan.Idaho:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Bastard Man:
Crytek, for the love of god, when are you going to fix the audio bug? I have been getting 50% audio for months, I have given up playing entirely because the game is completely unplayable with the audio in such garbage condition, I want to play the game we all love with my friends but your abject laziness and incompetence have made this game an unplayable mess.

WHEN. IS. THE. AUDIO. BUG. GETTING. FIXED. Communicate with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ playerbase for crying out loud.

If I were them this would NOT encourage me to reach out to you. Good thing they are professionals at dealing with people... and not me.

Have you tied tech support friend?

And FYI my game sound is not broken and I am playing quite normally.
To be honest, i do think something changed in the past month with sound. Mind you, sound is the one thing in Hunt I rarely have any issues with. I can normally hear Hunter's butt cheeks clapping from 5-10ft crotch walking in the mud...... However, yesterday, two times I got the literal baby Jesus scared of me cause I just be waiting around a corner and someone will just appear in front and clock me.... never heard a single thing.

Could be something else, but this didn't feel like the normal 'to many sounds goin on, overload'. As you suggested, heres not the place to fix it, just to mention it. Though, pretty sure Crytek knows about it cause I have seen a increase in noise related threads in the past few days.
Noxx 3. dec. 2023 kl. 8:52 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Peter Panzy:
@Noxx: Very well said sir, on both of those last posts you made.

Cheers mate, glad that I'm not the only one thinking that way.
Duncan.Idaho (Udelukket) 3. dec. 2023 kl. 9:11 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
The question of whether you should be able to play with your friends who live in a region that you are ping locked out of or not has indeed popped into my head, and I think when you queue with your friends living abroad, you should definitely be able to play on their servers. It's simple. Should randoms be able to play on those servers? Absolutely not.

What is your logic there?

If it is good for friends... Then why is it not good for randoms?

If it works well enough for friends. Why should we exclude randoms? Its not like they are different things here... they are both "players"...

How do you see that making sense?
Sidst redigeret af Duncan.Idaho; 3. dec. 2023 kl. 9:12
Duncan.Idaho (Udelukket) 3. dec. 2023 kl. 9:30 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Duncan.Idaho:

What is your logic there?

If it is good for friends... Then why is it not good for randoms?

If it works well enough for friends. Why should we exclude randoms? Its not like they are different things here... they are both "players"...

How do you see that making sense?
Because randoms play on servers where they have high ping to abuse it. Are you being dishonest right now or do you genuinely not understand what the issue with it is?

First point, you cannot abuse it. It abuses YOU.

But for the sake of the argument lets say you can.

Are you suggesting its ok for friends to abuse it but not randoms? What kind of justice is that? No one should abuse it if it is abusable.
Sidst redigeret af Duncan.Idaho; 3. dec. 2023 kl. 9:31
Peter Panzy 3. dec. 2023 kl. 9:44 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Duncan.Idaho:

First point, you cannot abuse it. It abuses you.

But for the sake of the argument lets say you can.

Are you suggesting its ok for friends to abuse it but not randoms? What kind of justice is that? No one should abuse it if it is abusable.
First off: don't put words in my mouth. Secondly, as a rule people play with their friends living abroad to have fun, not to abuse their high ping. The problem is people who knowingly abuse their high ping (google peeker's advantage and how latency in general affects hitreg, as you seem to be painfully unaware of these concepts). And the overwhelming majority of these ping abusers are randoms. So, without inconveniencing people who just want to play with their friends I say we eliminate 99% of the problem.
Both are correct, and both friends/randoms can abuse the grouping system for a advantage in the game. The only way to fix it is to fix the servers themselves, which might happen with the new engine comming. Also, and i'm no expert here on this kind of stuff, but I would think a faster server provider would help.

However, denying friends/randoms to play together in the hopes to stop some bad apples isn't a answer ether. there is a fine line that should be acceptable ping..... my thought would be 150-200ms range.

Again, new engine and faster servers I think would be the best all around fix. No expert though on these things.
Noxx 3. dec. 2023 kl. 9:56 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Duncan.Idaho:

First point, you cannot abuse it. It abuses you.

But for the sake of the argument lets say you can.

Are you suggesting its ok for friends to abuse it but not randoms? What kind of justice is that? No one should abuse it if it is abusable.
First off: don't put words in my mouth. Secondly, as a rule people play with their friends living abroad to have fun, not to abuse their high ping. The problem is people who knowingly abuse their high ping (google peeker's advantage and how latency in general affects hitreg, as you seem to be painfully unaware of these concepts). And the overwhelming majority of these ping abusers are randoms. So, without inconveniencing people who just want to play with their friends I say we eliminate 99% of the problem.

People with friends abroad can also explicitly abuse the system by getting friends from different regions on purpose so they can use it. It doesn't have to be fun in the first place for everyone, just saying.

But nontheless I could also get myself a VPN and access a region that I'd normally be locked out of, you can always find a way to get around your problem. If you want to have an advantage or misbehave you'll find ways to do so.
Noxx 3. dec. 2023 kl. 10:59 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
VPN's don't lower your ping.

Regardless, the whole point is to make it hard enough for most people to not want to bother. We're not talking a total, 100% solution to the problem, we're talking a solution that eliminates a sizable chunk of the problem. Do you really think reshade is completely banned now? I highly doubt it. A few people probably still use it, likely found a workaround. But do most people who used reshade still use it? No, they don't. Does the fact that we can't completely eliminate a problem mean we should just close our eyes and let it happen? Absolutely not.

Yes a VPN per se doesn't lower your ping, but you can tell the servers that you are located at oceania even though you aren't and it will therefore give you the possibility to play on said server even though your ping limit is exceeded.

Nobody said anything about closing our eyes, did we? I just told you that some of your ideas have flaws, some are not that easy to do in general and that talking to the devs here in this discussion thread is pointless, you'd need to go to their discord. So where exactly did I say close your eyes and just let it be the way it is? Damn I even said that deranking needs to be adressed.
Duncan.Idaho (Udelukket) 3. dec. 2023 kl. 13:08 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
But saying stuff like "MaTcHmAkInG iSn'T bRoKeN" is just being dishonest.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3104467492

What is the problem we are supposed to see here?
Duncan.Idaho (Udelukket) 3. dec. 2023 kl. 13:10 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Duncan.Idaho:

What is the problem we are supposed to see here?
My teammate and I are both 5 stars. And we have three stars in our lobby. See the problem yet, Duncan Idaho? Or should I mail you glasses?

The three stars are playing with 5 stars... what would you expect?

Its the team score that matters friend.
Sidst redigeret af Duncan.Idaho; 3. dec. 2023 kl. 13:11
Duncan.Idaho (Udelukket) 3. dec. 2023 kl. 13:15 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Duncan.Idaho:

The three stars are playing with 5 stars... what would you expect?
For them to not be in my lobbies unless I'm playing with a 3 star player myself. How is this fair or balanced? That 3 star I killed never saw it coming, he got destroyed and got his teammate killed too. Why are these people in my lobbies? You seriously going to defend this?

*shrugs*
That is not how the MM system works. I don't know why you would expect it to do that. MM is a balance between search time, fairness, and population size. You can't have it all, all the time.

I am sure the three star was not surprised to find another 5 star in his match.... you know... because he is playing with one.
Sidst redigeret af Duncan.Idaho; 3. dec. 2023 kl. 13:16
Peter Panzy 3. dec. 2023 kl. 13:37 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Adler:
But saying stuff like "MaTcHmAkInG iSn'T bRoKeN" is just being dishonest.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3104467492
I think you may be reading the screen wrong. Its the gold stars that match up the players, the individual stars just adds up to the team gold star ranking. So you could very well get a 5/6* with a 3*, depending on how many people are available to join the game at that time.

With that new understanding, you are even 4* to one group and actually ranked higher on two other teams, as they are 3.5*. Can't see the top team, but i imagine more/less the same.
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