Are streamers using sway scripts now? LOL

[Nhika]

Wish my weapon had sway like theirs, it's like non existent sometimes :P

[Fritzbube]

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

Fritzbube님이 먼저 게시:

im not constantly aiming at heads

So even at split second reaction you just instinctively counter the sway of your gun with mouse movements... Must screw up shooting for you in other FPS games.... XD

Hunt is my only pvp Shooter and i use a page which calculates my mousespeed to all other pve games, so i dont mess up my aiming "skills" (im not that good ;)

[Fritzbube]

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

Fritzbube님이 먼저 게시:

No... Because shooting is reactionary.. The sheer thought to counter your sway would just slow down your reaction time.. It's one more thing for your brain to process... Doesn't seem realistic to be doing it all the time.. Only in shots where you have time to aim... Which is infrequent..

im not sure, but when im driving a car i dont always think about driving, it becomes second nature to do that after some time, of course its not 100% but, what i mean is that when you look at my screen and i aim at a head you wont see very much sway movement, of course there are flickshots and all kinds of different techniques, but when i am AIMING i can pretty much negate the sway from the weapons i use all the time since 5 years

[Captain Blue]

Fritzbube님이 먼저 게시:

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

No... Because shooting is reactionary.. The sheer thought to counter your sway would just slow down your reaction time.. It's one more thing for your brain to process... Doesn't seem realistic to be doing it all the time.. Only in shots where you have time to aim... Which is infrequent..

im not sure, but when im driving a car i dont always think about driving, it becomes second nature to do that after some time, of course its not 100% but, what i mean is that when you look at my screen and i aim at a head you wont see very much sway movement, of course there are flickshots and all kinds of different techniques, but when i am AIMING i can pretty much negate the sway from the weapons i use all the time since 5 years

Doesn't seem realistic to reprogram your brain to reduce sway in a game. it's counter intuitive. Sounds like BS to cover for streamers using scripts..

[Fritzbube]

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

Fritzbube님이 먼저 게시:

im not sure, but when im driving a car i dont always think about driving, it becomes second nature to do that after some time, of course its not 100% but, what i mean is that when you look at my screen and i aim at a head you wont see very much sway movement, of course there are flickshots and all kinds of different techniques, but when i am AIMING i can pretty much negate the sway from the weapons i use all the time since 5 years

Doesn't seem realistic to reprogram your brain to reduce sway in a game. it's counter intuitive. Sounds like BS to cover for streamers using scripts..

its called learning

[Captain Blue]

Fritzbube님이 먼저 게시:

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

Doesn't seem realistic to reprogram your brain to reduce sway in a game. it's counter intuitive. Sounds like BS to cover for streamers using scripts..

its called learning

You misspelled lying.

[Wandspeck]

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

Fritzbube님이 먼저 게시:

No... Because shooting is reactionary.. The sheer thought to counter your sway would just slow down your reaction time.. It's one more thing for your brain to process... Doesn't seem realistic to be doing it all the time.. Only in shots where you have time to aim... Which is infrequent..

its like learning recoil patterns :) some ppl do that.

[Captain Blue]

Risdiz님이 먼저 게시:

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

No... Because shooting is reactionary.. The sheer thought to counter your sway would just slow down your reaction time.. It's one more thing for your brain to process... Doesn't seem realistic to be doing it all the time.. Only in shots where you have time to aim... Which is infrequent..

its like learning recoil patterns :) some ppl do that.

Sure..... Streamers cheat.. lots of them.. Them using scripts to negate the sway is highly likely.. Somebody jumping to their defence that they do it... Just seems super suspect.. You don't see any of these people who make youtube videos ever talk about countering the sway...

Even if what you say is true.. Doesn't mean the streamers are not using scripts...

It just makes you look like a liar because cheating is rampant.. You can call every streamer a cheater and you'd probably be right 90% of the time..

No punishment for cheating and it can make you multi millionaire..

You can't trust any of them... People murder for millions.. People murder for less..

[ice]

sway is something anyone can control, this is LITERALLY a skill issue

[₦ | cpt.morgan]

Nhika님이 먼저 게시:

Wish my weapon had sway like theirs, it's like non existent sometimes :P

they using scripts too compensate the recoil. it moves the mouse automatically down in the moment when you shoot

players who use these script playing favoritly the mosin avtomat or officer carbine

its cheating

[Fritzbube]

Captain Blue님이 먼저 게시:

Risdiz님이 먼저 게시:

its like learning recoil patterns :) some ppl do that.

Sure..... Streamers cheat.. lots of them.. Them using scripts to negate the sway is highly likely.. Somebody jumping to their defence that they do it... Just seems super suspect.. You don't see any of these people who make youtube videos ever talk about countering the sway...

Even if what you say is true.. Doesn't mean the streamers are not using scripts...

It just makes you look like a liar because cheating is rampant.. You can call every streamer a cheater and you'd probably be right 90% of the time..

No punishment for cheating and it can make you multi millionaire..

You can't trust any of them... People murder for millions.. People murder for less..

Nonononono! im NOT defending cheating streamers, all I was trying to say is that it is possible to do that. If I as average player can do it... and after nearly 3k hours playing this game I think I know my guns, Nagant Silencer 😉 headshot from max headshot range says hello

Ratchaz and ESPECIALLY Hornet are very high on my "I don't buy it" scale, beleive me

[mccluckers]

the sway is a repeatable and learnable pattern different for every gun .... its like recoil patterns in cs. you learn how the weapon sways and *prepare for your mind to be blown* move the mouse to counteract it. its a forbidden technique that only 4000+ hour streamers can grasp the concept of.

[whoizz]

what I said before still mandates.. Ubisoft started QB, which is a similar anti-cheat system I suggest here, in fact since I left university, and that was more than 20 years ago.

R6:S has turned on their anti-cheat lately, and there are zero streamers who dominate - in fact, most cannot even stay positive K/D, others, they complain or in fact I saw people on TEST SERVER - which doesn't have the anti-cheat running.. this is how bad the situation is, they jump into a test server to cheat.

someone on a platform trying to monetise over a system that is broken may as well be exploiting the very flaws of that system, and that could easily include a third party software to inject mouse movement to compensate for sway.. 99.9% of these people, above all on twitch, are not good.. they are just cheaters, and you can take EFT as example.. BSG asked a bunch of them to play on LAN, can they actually hit anything? - nope.. what I saw was, n00b fest, they can't run a corner, they have zero awareness, even the streamers who were actually "God Level" with snipers didn't land A SINGLE SHOT - NOT EVEN ONE, however, he never misses online.

it's clear to me, and to most, in fact.. could we explain how someone would cheat the sway? - case yes, we know a way to cheat, 90% of people who deal with it are cheating, and WHEN they are on twitch, the number is 100%.

and I'm still waiting to see any streamer do well over LAN.. back at h1z1 was similar, 50 streamers who never missed online, throw them into a LAN setup where they cannot install cheats they shoot 10x worse than potato player.

in short, is that player playing over LAN and doing well? - good, probably a decent player.. and what I find most amazing, people who actually play for a living, meaning, they are part of team to play competition are never on twitch.. they play for real, twitch is just a cheaters dream, "I may as well make some change while cheating"... it's just pathetic.

[Captain Blue]

mccluckers님이 먼저 게시:

the sway is a repeatable and learnable pattern different for every gun .... its like recoil patterns in cs. you learn how the weapon sways and *prepare for your mind to be blown* move the mouse to counteract it. its a forbidden technique that only 4000+ hour streamers can grasp the concept of.

Yeah I just believe that it's possible to remember every sway pattern, pay attention to the game / good gamer sense while also chatting to your audience / streaming in general.. Then make it looks so effortless..... Please..

[SpeedForc3]

all the window lickers in this thread too, defending crytek. they haven't done a single thing right in years. they promise actual anti-cheat, fixes, new maps, etc. none of has every happened. they just put out OP skins to farm from all the cheaters.

A considerable amount of player base cheats in some way. A lot of them use crosshair/hud applications, which is still cheating.

[₦ | cpt.morgan]

whoizz님이 먼저 게시:

what I said before still mandates.. Ubisoft started QB, which is a similar anti-cheat system I suggest here, in fact since I left university, and that was more than 20 years ago.

R6:S has turned on their anti-cheat lately, and there are zero streamers who dominate - in fact, most cannot even stay positive K/D, others, they complain or in fact I saw people on TEST SERVER - which doesn't have the anti-cheat running.. this is how bad the situation is, they jump into a test server to cheat.

someone on a platform trying to monetise over a system that is broken may as well be exploiting the very flaws of that system, and that could easily include a third party software to inject mouse movement to compensate for sway.. 99.9% of these people, above all on twitch, are not good.. they are just cheaters, and you can take EFT as example.. BSG asked a bunch of them to play on LAN, can they actually hit anything? - nope.. what I saw was, n00b fest, they can't run a corner, they have zero awareness, even the streamers who were actually "God Level" with snipers didn't land A SINGLE SHOT - NOT EVEN ONE, however, he never misses online.

it's clear to me, and to most, in fact.. could we explain how someone would cheat the sway? - case yes, we know a way to cheat, 90% of people who deal with it are cheating, and WHEN they are on twitch, the number is 100%.

and I'm still waiting to see any streamer do well over LAN.. back at h1z1 was similar, 50 streamers who never missed online, throw them into a LAN setup where they cannot install cheats they shoot 10x worse than potato player.

in short, is that player playing over LAN and doing well? - good, probably a decent player.. and what I find most amazing, people who actually play for a living, meaning, they are part of team to play competition are never on twitch.. they play for real, twitch is just a cheaters dream, "I may as well make some change while cheating"... it's just pathetic.

you can expect that a KD of 3,4 or 5 is nearly impossible without hacks. hunt showdown is so luck based and random very often

its hilarious how often some streamers always makes the right decision in high risk situations, in my opinion not possible. especially when you have already 20000, 300000, 400000 kills in this game

On the other hand, modern hacks are so high adjustable you practically cant detect them ingame, as example aimobts are pixel based, they adjust the crosshair minimal when you come close to the head as example. it looks like that the streamer or player has done this headshot in that moment

there are also hacks who are streaming proof

and crytek is doing nothing because they know they would loose their source of money :-)