dumdum ammo

[Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX]

all about dumdum ammo:

this ♥♥♥♥ is overrated, need to be nerfed to the ground by reducing damage to half and intense, same as poison. every single match peeps getting carried by this trash custom ammo.

anyway, would be much greater if they would remove ammo like fire (for all wpns except shotguns), poison and bleed ammo (bleed for all weapons like shotties and rifles + pistols).

this is cancer meta. disgusting.

[Darth_Angeal]

Only slug needs to be removed since it makes any shotguns pretty much a cheap nitro with better aim and spamability. Not to mention that it makes the standard shotgun and other ammo-types pretty much useless.
The rest is fine and can be countered by syrings and traits. I would advice to use them.

[Kangaroo Salesman]

It's fine, just take bloodless if you're so worried. I find all the custom ammo to be great!

[Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX]

Originally posted by Kangaroo Salesman:

It's fine, just take bloodless if you're so worried. I find all the custom ammo to be great!

oh dear, if it would prevent you from bleeding at all - it would be fine, anyway even with it this type of ammo is sick. FMJ/high velo/spitzer/slug/db fine, but dumdum, flechette, any poison ammo is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash, especially dumdum ones

[Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX]

and no, it's not fine. it's just a thing that every poor skill noob runs with. same as shotguns "non-meta" time. git gud and stop playing ♥♥♥♥ ammo

[Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX]

Originally posted by Darth_Angeal:

Only slug needs to be removed since it makes any shotguns pretty much a cheap nitro with better aim and spamability. Not to mention that it makes the standard shotgun and other ammo-types pretty much useless.
The rest is fine and can be countered by syrings and traits. I would advice to use them.

what syringe can save you from dumdum/flechette trashloads? 4 big vitality shots?

[Kangaroo Salesman]

Sounds like you are just angry. It's all good, dumdum is not a problem nor are other custom ammos. I'm fine using them or being shot by them a non issue as they're are ways to counter some.

[Soul Fire]

Originally posted by Darth_Angeal:

Only slug needs to be removed since it makes any shotguns pretty much a cheap nitro with better aim and spamability. Not to mention that it makes the standard shotgun and other ammo-types pretty much useless.
The rest is fine and can be countered by syrings and traits. I would advice to use them.

Respectfully disagree with that, sure slugs in many ways are better than buck (I run them often with slate), no rng longer 1 shot range and a higher 2 tap range but that's as far as it goes. There are advantages to buck shot if you really know your shotgun game, first is hip fire firerate speed is higher than ads by 20% if you look at slate about 20% with spectre to (note it can be countered with iron eye trait) Second is movement, buckshot hip fire allows you to move at full speed, breaking off after a shot much faster than slug, you can also just flick shot people with out the need to ads which is much faster and takes away the risk of aiming in only to get headshot.


In a high level game where everyone's aim is good speed can be the key factor in a lose/win that and you can follow up shots quicker in hip fire. Lastly when you need to push and push fast you can attack quicker in hipfire than a guy can ads and shoot, so pushing in and perusing is much better with buck than slug in my experience.

Edit: slug does have a bit more pen to, but both buck and slug are very valid choices for shotguns, dragons breath is more memey good for bosses, and if you can hit somone leathal with it, they will lose bars quite fast due to fire damage but it's kill ranges are very short even by buck standards.

Penny is either the best or the worst it's a true rng damage, good for pve though.

Flachett is the middle man of buck and slug, I don't recommend it on any other shotguns but terminus levering, it can't 1 shot point blank unless all shots hit the head you lose that, but you get more dps and tighter spread mid range, you can hit a solid 60 70 + bleed at 25 meters if rng is on your side.

[BerryShone]

Originally posted by Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX:

and no, it's not fine. it's just a thing that every poor skill noob runs with. same as shotguns "non-meta" time. git gud and stop playing ♥♥♥♥ ammo

Its normal considering the path the devs have been taking for some time now: making the game easier and easier for beginners.

[Kangaroo Salesman]

Originally posted by Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX:

and no, it's not fine. it's just a thing that every poor skill noob runs with. same as shotguns "non-meta" time. git gud and stop playing ♥♥♥♥ ammo

If i could use any ammo effectively and without issue wouldn't that mean i "got gud"? Sorry man you sound a bit angry, i think you need a break from hunt if you complain about special ammo this much.

[Boomer Click Bait]

Originally posted by Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX:

all about dumdum ammo:

this ♥♥♥♥ is overrated, need to be nerfed to the ground by reducing damage to half and intense, same as poison. every single match peeps getting carried by this trash custom ammo.

anyway, would be much greater if they would remove ammo like fire (for all wpns except shotguns), poison and bleed ammo (bleed for all weapons like shotties and rifles + pistols).

this is cancer meta. disgusting.

Skill issue.

[Boomer Click Bait]

Originally posted by BerryShone:

Originally posted by Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX:

and no, it's not fine. it's just a thing that every poor skill noob runs with. same as shotguns "non-meta" time. git gud and stop playing ♥♥♥♥ ammo

Its normal considering the path the devs have been taking for some time now: making the game easier and easier for beginners.

Your game has to appeal to people to get more sales to make more money. If it's super hardcore that only a small amount of people enjoy or understand it won't make enough money to continue getting support.

[Soul Fire]

To be honest at first I was annoyed with all the custom ammo changes, (yes some of the effects are annoying) but it's making compact and medium ammo more relevant as a whole. Long ammo will always be qoute on qoute "meta" in a lot of peoples eyes but these changes close the gap. Personally I don't follow the meta because with hunt in particular any gun is good with skill and they are all well balanced to the point that even a compact in it's range 30 meters will beat out a long ammo gun just because of fire rate, even more so if your a consistent shot.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

It's overrated but also needs to be nerfed? What?

[Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX]

Originally posted by BerryShone:

Originally posted by Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX:

and no, it's not fine. it's just a thing that every poor skill noob runs with. same as shotguns "non-meta" time. git gud and stop playing ♥♥♥♥ ammo

Its normal considering the path the devs have been taking for some time now: making the game easier and easier for beginners.

sure, that's the way the game truly "needs" to be played by plebs and be for plebs, nah dude. it's not right.

[Standin.PsychoROFLit.HyperX]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

It's overrated but also needs to be nerfed? What?

OVERRATED, it means it's better than it should be. Same as poison ammo. I respect FMJ/high velo and other truly skilled ammo types which just adds more interesting moments to gameplay, but not the trashy bleeding ♥♥♥♥ and half year poison.