Lightfoot nerf just reduces the pace of the game. More stalemates incoming.

[Brad1891]

Who enjoys hiding in boss lair for 20mins because one bounty holder is missing a bar + they brought close range so they aren't coming out and no one pushes? You must enjoy being wall banged by long ammo. Who asked for this? People claiming it was abused... It had a cooldown. Extend that if you must. Removing it entirely just gives more power to mosin spammers that keep at range and nerfs close range players that want to fight.

[Terminal Velocity]

They are trying to move away from the stealth vision of the game, so it's obvious they will regard these mechanics as "exploits" and remove them. More to come in the future. They have previously expressed they want fast-paced combat so the original vision of a stealth game is probably a hindrance to their plans at this point in time.

[Brad1891]

Reducing the ability for people to push and be aggressive without being punished as harshly by stationary campers... I'm sorry but how do you see that increasing fast paced combat?

If they want fast paced combat they should produce a decent "Quick play" version of the game. 4-5 compounds same amount of teams and a boss in the middle. Maybe they'll actually increase the playerbase. It would give new comers a reduction in 20mins of running with a lung symbol and dealing with PvE. It would give them a chance to learn gun mechanics far better than stationary objects in the gun range. Sure it would split the playerbase at first but would be far better for retaining the numbers they gain during the start of events.

[Terminal Velocity]

Well it's a stealth mechanic. They have been progressively nerfing them.

Same reason why they added that 75m circle to warn bounty holders someone is nearby. Now it's going to be impossible to catch a garbage team which has run out of legit wallhacks unaware, midway via compounds.

Yes who knows, maybe in a few years we will have "hunt arena" just like BSG is doing to Tarkov.

[Peter Panzy]

If your saying that removing a unintended feature of literally frog hopping to make Zero noise is breaking the ability to push..... i'm sorry, shouldn't crutch on unintended mechanics to begin with. Light foot was always intended to be able to jump over obstacle and climb ladders with no noise, not become a leap frog and make zero noise.

If anything, the 'nerf' actually makes it better since now you get all the benefits it was designed for at a 1 point cheaper price. This hurts nothing.

[Der Guteste TTV]

It was already nerfed back then - the current frog walk is just an oversight of the old mechanics. About times it gets removed. Great change but way overdue.

[Shizofrend]

Originally posted by Free Palpatine:

Who enjoys hiding in boss lair for 20mins because one bounty holder is missing a bar + they brought close range so they aren't coming out and no one pushes? You must enjoy being wall banged by long ammo. Who asked for this? People claiming it was abused... It had a cooldown. Extend that if you must. Removing it entirely just gives more power to mosin spammers that keep at range and nerfs close range players that want to fight.

ikr. ppl with decent audio setups and ears could hear it being used regardless and it helped make boring afk camping fights where half the ppl sit afk and othe rhalf slowly crouch walk for 5 minutes before engaing less boring.

[Brad1891]

Originally posted by Peter Panzy:

If your saying that removing a unintended feature of literally frog hopping to make Zero noise is breaking the ability to push..... i'm sorry, shouldn't crutch on unintended mechanics to begin with. Light foot was always intended to be able to jump over obstacle and climb ladders with no noise, not become a leap frog and make zero noise.

If anything, the 'nerf' actually makes it better since now you get all the benefits it was designed for at a 1 point cheaper price. This hurts nothing.

It had a cooldown. You can't frog hop with it. It simply reduces the ridiculous trades with shotguns that will now be inevitable. Making players with any sense keep their distance more often. Making it a game of frustration and patience. Boring af in my opinion. Don't be sorry. Its you searching the official discord for 3-4* teammates.

[BlackWolf9988]

Never need it personally. I just shift w into a boss lair.

[Con.RoXP]

The whole point of Hunt is audio. If you manage to hide your footsteps then I might as well play a game with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ audio where I won't hear footsteps regardless. It defeats the whole purpose of this game.

[Peter Panzy]

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

The whole point of Hunt is audio. If you manage to hide your footsteps then I might as well play a game with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ audio where I won't hear footsteps regardless. It defeats the whole purpose of this game.

With you brining up this point, just made me realize that alot of the people that have issue with fixing a lightfoot exploit is the same people that have issue with rain being to loud...... They are ok with a noise exploit they use, but not ok with a environmental effect that effects everyone equally......

[Brad1891]

Originally posted by Peter Panzy:

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

The whole point of Hunt is audio. If you manage to hide your footsteps then I might as well play a game with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ audio where I won't hear footsteps regardless. It defeats the whole purpose of this game.

With you brining up this point, just made me realize that alot of the people that have issue with fixing a lightfoot exploit is the same people that have issue with rain being to loud...... They are ok with a noise exploit they use, but not ok with a environmental effect that effects everyone equally......

Totally irrelevant. No one here has complained about rain. You think it is some kind of 6* exclusive amazing movement technique that you cant learn so you're happy for it to go. It is a singular jump without a stupid grunt. That is all. The bot youre agreeing with has 400 hours. Doesn't play the game.

[Con.RoXP]

Originally posted by RIP Lightfoot:

Originally posted by Peter Panzy:

With you brining up this point, just made me realize that alot of the people that have issue with fixing a lightfoot exploit is the same people that have issue with rain being to loud...... They are ok with a noise exploit they use, but not ok with a environmental effect that effects everyone equally......

Totally irrelevant. No one here has complained about rain. You think it is some kind of 6* exclusive amazing movement technique that you cant learn so you're happy for it to go. It is a singular jump without a stupid grunt. That is all. The bot youre agreeing with has 400 hours. Doesn't play the game.

And yet the 400 hour "bot" is not the one complaining about his precious unintended crutch being taken away. Cope and seethe I guess.

[Peter Panzy]

Originally posted by RIP Lightfoot:

Originally posted by Peter Panzy:

With you brining up this point, just made me realize that alot of the people that have issue with fixing a lightfoot exploit is the same people that have issue with rain being to loud...... They are ok with a noise exploit they use, but not ok with a environmental effect that effects everyone equally......

Totally irrelevant. No one here has complained about rain. You think it is some kind of 6* exclusive amazing movement technique that you cant learn so you're happy for it to go. It is a singular jump without a stupid grunt. That is all. The bot youre agreeing with has 400 hours. Doesn't play the game.

Little more than a 'stupid grunt' and you know it. Lets be honest here.

[Heartless]

Holy crap this thread is full of straw men and bad faith. I agree with OP. Don't take away the muffled jump, just extend the cooldown on it so it cant be abused but will still cover a single jump or fall so you can maneuver when necessary.

[Brad1891]

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

And yet the 400 hour "bot" is not the one complaining about his precious unintended crutch being taken away. Cope and seethe I guess.

You barely play the game. You're 4* on a good day and you think a singular quietened jump is the reason you're bad. Behave.