What's the point of upgrading a game engine to a more demanding one?

[xaanng]

A recent roadmap video claims that the engine update will improve the gaming experience for 90% of players and create problems for 10%, but I don't understand who this is all for? I now have an i7 4790 processor and a gtx 2060 video card and I play at maximum graphics settings at a stable 60 fps, I don’t need an increase in game performance. But judging by the new system requirements, my system, due to the old process, will no longer support the new engine. It turns out that I am one of those 10% for whom the update should create problems. But who are the 90% and why do they need this update? If with my old hardware the game ran at 60 fps and I did not need any improvements, then did people with more modern processors and stronger video cards suffer from low performance and poor optimization of the game? Is optimization necessary for those who already have good hardware and not for those who have weak hardware and who are already experiencing performance difficulties?

Or maybe by improving the gaming experience we are talking about some kind of graphical improvements, maybe some kind of snow effects for the new map (if it is winter). But why do all this for a competitive pvp game? In games of this type, players very often specifically set the minimum graphics settings to remove unnecessary, disturbing effects and gain an advantage in pvp. This is a pvp game, not a game whose meaning is in aesthetics. Are some minor graphical gimmicks really worth throwing away 10% of players because of them?

[Leslie Chow ⛧]

The game is yearS old and you are complaining about an update, right. There's nothing competitive about Hunt btw

[xaanng]

"There's nothing competitive about Hunt btw." What does it mean? Do you prefer to go to the hunt to admire the locations, and your favorite game mode is following without players? Or do you still like to play in the main mode and primarily compete there with other players for rewards? If you agree that the main point of the game is the pvp game, then don't you think that updating the engine requires increasing performance for those players who already have this problem, and not adding graphic decorations to an already beautiful game? But in reality it turns out the other way around.

[オルゴール]

The new requirements more aim at graphics support. Your cpu will continue to be supported as no real new api or smth like that (like directx) was made. So you might have lower performance because of your cpu but I highly doubt it being a factor why you won’t be able to play. They also increase it to assure new players launching the game to have an adequate experience if they meet the requirements, unlike now where people on laptops struggle heavily despite being above minimum (i know Laptop issue but it’s just to make it easier for people who don’t know anything about hardware)

[xaanng]

Yes, I also think that the game will work on the old processor, but there will be problems with performance, but users of old consoles will literally not be able to play because someone got the idea that snow on the new map (or something similar) needs to be implemented exclusively on new technologies and nothing else. The fact of the matter is that it is absurd when in a network game they update the engine not for the sake of increasing performance, but for graphics at the expense of performance. In addition, the stated minimum system requirements are very high even by the standards of single-player games, and Hunt Showdown is an online game that already looks better than most similar games.

In addition, with the engine update, new bugs appear. Now the game has been more or less fine-tuned over several years, and I would understand the decision to switch to a new engine if there was the following logic behind it: we tried to optimize the game so that as many people as possible could play it comfortably, but we squeezed out everything that could have come from the old engine, so we are switching to new technologies that will allow us to further optimize the game. Well, or alternatively, I would understand such a decision if it were made for the implementation of some grandiose game decisions. But I really doubt that on the new map it will be possible to implement such grandiose gameplay solutions that are worth changing the engine for and which cannot be implemented on the current engine. Well, what do they want to come up with? Footprints in the snow that would remain throughout the entire gaming session? If something like that, then I doubt that it requires a new engine.

[Leslie Chow ⛧]

Originally posted by xaanng:

"There's nothing competitive about Hunt btw." What does it mean? Do you prefer to go to the hunt to admire the locations, and your favorite game mode is following without players? Or do you still like to play in the main mode and primarily compete there with other players for rewards? If you agree that the main point of the game is the pvp game, then don't you think that updating the engine requires increasing performance for those players who already have this problem, and not adding graphic decorations to an already beautiful game? But in reality it turns out the other way around.

There's a reason Hunt is not an e-sports title. It's not competitive in the slightest, outcomes rely on RNG too heavily

[xaanng]

Originally posted by REvil:

Originally posted by xaanng:

"There's nothing competitive about Hunt btw." What does it mean? Do you prefer to go to the hunt to admire the locations, and your favorite game mode is following without players? Or do you still like to play in the main mode and primarily compete there with other players for rewards? If you agree that the main point of the game is the pvp game, then don't you think that updating the engine requires increasing performance for those players who already have this problem, and not adding graphic decorations to an already beautiful game? But in reality it turns out the other way around.

There's a reason Hunt is not an e-sports title. It's not competitive in the slightest, outcomes rely on RNG too heavily

By competitive pvp game I don't mean eSports game. I talked about why this game is played, about what this game is conceptually. Well, let's say a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 is an open world game, a game that recreates virtual reality filled with adventures and stories. A game like RDR has primarily artistic and aesthetic goals; it needs to look beautiful and believable, so the pursuit of graphics at the expense of frame rate is completely justified. Performance isn't that important in slow firefights with stupid bots. Hunt Showdown is first and foremost a game about shooting games with other people. In this game, pvp is a priority part of the game; good performance is important here, not beautiful graphics.

[Pyromax]

Originally posted by REvil:

Originally posted by xaanng:

"There's nothing competitive about Hunt btw." What does it mean? Do you prefer to go to the hunt to admire the locations, and your favorite game mode is following without players? Or do you still like to play in the main mode and primarily compete there with other players for rewards? If you agree that the main point of the game is the pvp game, then don't you think that updating the engine requires increasing performance for those players who already have this problem, and not adding graphic decorations to an already beautiful game? But in reality it turns out the other way around.

There's a reason Hunt is not an e-sports title. It's not competitive in the slightest, outcomes rely on RNG too heavily

You have a very unique take on competetive....
What does e-sport has to do with the competetiveness of hunt?

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by REvil:

Originally posted by xaanng:

"There's nothing competitive about Hunt btw." What does it mean? Do you prefer to go to the hunt to admire the locations, and your favorite game mode is following without players? Or do you still like to play in the main mode and primarily compete there with other players for rewards? If you agree that the main point of the game is the pvp game, then don't you think that updating the engine requires increasing performance for those players who already have this problem, and not adding graphic decorations to an already beautiful game? But in reality it turns out the other way around.

There's a reason Hunt is not an e-sports title. It's not competitive in the slightest, outcomes rely on RNG too heavily

All PvP games are competitive don't confuse competitive and tournament competitive. This game is so competitive it's full of cheaters that will cry and piss their pants if they'd lose a fair fight..

[TheKingOfThings]

If you play at max graphics right now with 60fps you will be fine when the engine updates. You will just have to lower some of your graphics.

[Necromancer]

Well they probably need to update the cryengine in order for future updates. Now that some games run on UE5 crytek probably wants to upgrade their engine to. It makes perfectly sense, you have way more options and possibilities, they even said that the new map is designed for the upgraded engine.

So don't worry, if you're able to play on max settings with good 60 fps your hardware will be able to play on the new engine as well, though i don't understand the need of having max settings at all but that's another topic.

[xaanng]

It’s difficult to say how the engine will work on older processors. So my i7 4790k is not so weak, it is even slightly more powerful than the i7 7700 from the stated minimum requirements. But the new system requirements focus not just on processor power, but on its series. In the case of Intel, this is no lower than the 7 series.

[꧁ YouTube = Rockboje ꧂]

hunt is a Love.. is the Love change his character and Makeup u can like it or hate it. if u like it u will Love Hunt more like before if u dislike this u have to looking for another love

[Breakdowns]

This is the nature of live services. Instead of making a sequel games slowly ship-of-theseus into a new game over time to meet player demand. It's incredibly expensive but it allows for complete control of the product. We can't one-up the company by running our own better servers with settings that become more popular than their own, they can dictate everything for better or for worse.

[Thorion]

bro i7 4790(2014!). Just buy a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ new processor, change your mother board for the next year's and stop crying...

[xaanng]

Originally posted by Thorion:

bro i7 4790(2014!). Just buy a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ new processor, change your mother board for the next year's and stop crying...

Well, look. It is stated that changing the engine will create a problem for 10%, that is, for every tenth player. Where does this 10% come from? Why are they there? As a rule, the point is either that a person, in principle, does not need a new console or a new computer, since, for example, he is not interested enough in the games that are coming out now. Or it is difficult for him to upgrade due to financial considerations.

Here's my example. On the one hand, although I have an old computer, it is powerful enough to play new single-player games at medium settings, and this suits me because I don’t find new games interesting enough. The most vivid impressions in recent years have come from indie games like Outer Wilds and Disco Elysium. On the other hand, I live in Russia and we have high prices for computer components, so updating a computer is a problem. And perhaps now, due to the update of this engine, I will have to spend a lot of money. Spending a lot not to discover the new generation gaming market (which is not very interesting to me), but to continue playing the same game as before only with the addition of special snow, playing the same game for which similar updates due to its specification are not needed. This evokes approximately the same feelings as if you were robbed for the amount of a month’s salary, your monthly salary was taken from you, and in return they were given almost nothing new, they were simply handed a useless trinket like some kind of technological snow on a new map.