Avto is being nerfed - What's next?

[beers]

After so long the avto is being nerfed. Now that's next in line to nerf in Hunt I am guessing will be Snipers.

I think one of the best nerfs for Snipers is for the developers to add some sort of smoke grenade that COMPLETELY makes the Sniper's line of sight 100% obstructed with no chance of seeing even 1% of movement or anything passed the smoke. Choke Bombs aren't good for this and they don't work as people can still see through them. We need an actual smoke bomb or something that completely negates and counters vision from Snipers who want to camp locations, windows, extractions, bodies, or objectives. If Crytek adds a consumable like this, then they won't have to nerf the Sniper directly.

[geordiebroon58]

"their ideal for KDA Farming"
-so is bows suppressors or even sitting outside boss lair, KDA Farming is a issue regardless

"snipers promote camping"
-This Entire Game Promotes camping

"increase sway, the current sway is a joke"
-sway became a joke in general i see no reason they need a sway nerf when you use a trait to make it irrelevant and they need to deal with bullet travel time (depending on what they use ofc)

"make them tumble and fall a few feet"
-not only would this achieve nothing regardless since they will be in line of sight unless they just climbed over a hill but wouldn't be in any way realistic, and why should that only be for snipers?

"make snipers have the loudest noise"
-i mean all guns make tremendous noise unless its a suppressor (which no sniper has and would be terrible anyways) so the additional noise would mean nothing

"Draws AI in"
-If you are holding an area to snipe you have already cleared the area from PVE or sitting in somewhere like a building so it isn't a problem to begin with so making it draw in AI from a further range would achieve nothing anyways while also achieving a punishment to anyone who actually changes and holds different positions etc only promoting camping in 1 area even further

"give snipers a weight class"
- Are you tryna turn the game into cod or something, also not only would they be running round with melee etc to just run faster making it irrelevant but this would only promote camping in 1 area even more (because you are punished for moving) and if its permanent regardless of what you hold that just makes the camp encouragement even worse

[Barry MaCockiner]

Originally posted by geordiebroon58:

"their ideal for KDA Farming"
-so is bows suppressors or even sitting outside boss lair, KDA Farming is a issue regardless

"snipers promote camping"
-This Entire Game Promotes camping

"increase sway, the current sway is a joke"
-sway became a joke in general i see no reason they need a sway nerf when you use a trait to make it irrelevant and they need to deal with bullet travel time (depending on what they use ofc)

"make them tumble and fall a few feet"
-not only would this achieve nothing regardless since they will be in line of sight unless they just climbed over a hill but wouldn't be in any way realistic, and why should that only be for snipers?

"make snipers have the loudest noise"
-i mean all guns make tremendous noise unless its a suppressor (which no sniper has and would be terrible anyways) so the additional noise would mean nothing

"Draws AI in"
-If you are holding an area to snipe you have already cleared the area from PVE or sitting in somewhere like a building so it isn't a problem to begin with so making it draw in AI from a further range would achieve nothing anyways while also achieving a punishment to anyone who actually changes and holds different positions etc only promoting camping in 1 area even further

"give snipers a weight class"
- Are you tryna turn the game into cod or something, also not only would they be running round with melee etc to just run faster making it irrelevant but this would only promote camping in 1 area even more (because you are punished for moving) and if its permanent regardless of what you hold that just makes the camp encouragement even worse

Thanks for typing all this out.

OP, What happens after your suggestions and it's just a run and gun shotgun tradefest, boring.

[dyra55]

Originally posted by beersnyc82:

How to nerf Snipers in a future update:

I'd say don't change anything but add a scope glint that shines when someone is aiming at you through the scope

Makes it for more tactical decision to choose when to scope in rather than holding the scope button all the time so it doesn't possibly compromise your position

[BlackhandAl]

Ye, lets only play shotgun, thats so much more fun
Hunt shotgun les go

[Psy]

lol good, id rather deal with shot gun campers than losers to sit in the woods at 80m. lets be real, long ammo andy's take their 2 shots then extract anyway. you dont need more bullets

[Tyrant]

Scoped weapons are really awful, and quite cheesy. Buuut i don't think we will ever see a nerf to them.

Personally i would just like to see a weight mechanic added, so at least snipers move slow. So they just can't camp outside of a lair light years away, and you have the ability to out run them.

[Barry MaCockiner]

Originally posted by dyra55:

Originally posted by beersnyc82:

How to nerf Snipers in a future update:

I'd say don't change anything but add a scope glint that shines when someone is aiming at you through the scope

Makes it for more tactical decision to choose when to scope in rather than holding the scope button all the time so it doesn't possibly compromise your position

As you are prob aware there was a glint discussion a few months back.
What are you gonna do if you see the glint and you have a shottie and a hand crossbow?

You can't fight back, and seriously who's gonna track the guy from there, you will duck for the nearest cover which you prob should have been in anyway.

For as many players who run long ammo regularly and are good with it, there are so many easy targets, slow crouch walkers on roofs to players that aggro the entire compound then run in a straight line out the front gate, not sure what these people expect.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by beersnyc82:

How to nerf Snipers in a future update:

- Give them increased sway, the current sway is a joke and even your mother who doesn't play the game can probably line up a couple shots in Hunt using a Sniper rifle
- Make it so when a player is "killed" and downed by a Sniper rifle, their body will tumble and fall down a few feet in the direction the player was trying to move or look in before they got shot by the killing blow. This is so the constant Sniper body-campers can't just camp the body repeatedly
- Make Sniper Rifles have the loudest noise and aggro pull-in and draw compared to every weapon in the game. This will alert all AI and zombies to come attack the camping Sniper player more easily.
- Give Sniper Rifles a weight class so if you carry one, you move and run a little bit slower

Agreed. Snipers are for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and exclusively make the game worse. At least with shotgun campers you can try to use throwables and such to flush them out, or wallbang them. Snipers have much less counterplay which varies greatly by your loadout, exacerbated by the fact that they usually don't even do the objective or anything and just hide in weird places so they get a surprise shot on you before you have a chance to react, potentially killing one of your party members.

P.S. LOL at all the comments acting like the only weapons in the game are snipers and shotguns. Almost as if the rest of the weapons are too hard for them to use, so they forget they exist.

[iеsilcut]

I just need to say that in fact avto was buffed. At now you should take 2 sparks pistols to have +28 ammo and good pickup from boxes, so you at least need trait but after update you can just take upper + 3 ammo boxes to have 9+15 ammos in total so ammo nerf of auto just a sht. And just remember, they said literraly "slightly increased both vert and hori recoil" so it will not hurt too much

Fk, they really could just make avto use special ammo like dolch or nitro is and it will be ideal fix, but now they just seems to broke ammo balance and force you to take ammo boxes for every lodout

P.S. Snipers are already nerfed due to a half-screen blur that causes dizziness, nausea and diarrhea

[Barry MaCockiner]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by beersnyc82:

How to nerf Snipers in a future update:

- Give them increased sway, the current sway is a joke and even your mother who doesn't play the game can probably line up a couple shots in Hunt using a Sniper rifle
- Make it so when a player is "killed" and downed by a Sniper rifle, their body will tumble and fall down a few feet in the direction the player was trying to move or look in before they got shot by the killing blow. This is so the constant Sniper body-campers can't just camp the body repeatedly
- Make Sniper Rifles have the loudest noise and aggro pull-in and draw compared to every weapon in the game. This will alert all AI and zombies to come attack the camping Sniper player more easily.
- Give Sniper Rifles a weight class so if you carry one, you move and run a little bit slower

Agreed. Snipers are for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and exclusively make the game worse. At least with shotgun campers you can try to use throwables and such to flush them out, or wallbang them. Snipers have much less counterplay which varies greatly by your loadout, exacerbated by the fact that they usually don't even do the objective or anything and just hide in weird places so they get a surprise shot on you before you have a chance to react, potentially killing one of your party members.

P.S. LOL at all the comments acting like the only weapons in the game are snipers and shotguns. Almost as if the rest of the weapons are too hard for them to use, so they forget they exist.

If your camping "properly" then no one knows your there right? You wander round a corner and boom some double barreller has crouch walked into your house. How are you going to flush that guy out?

Part of the intensity in HS is you can get tapped at any time at any point in the map, long or short range, if you take away an entire tier of those weapons it's much less exciting I guarantee it.

[dyra55]

Originally posted by Pat Fenis:

As you are prob aware there was a glint discussion a few months back.

Yes, i am aware!

Originally posted by Pat Fenis:

What are you gonna do if you see the glint and you have a shottie and a hand crossbow?

You can't fight back, and seriously who's gonna track the guy from there, you will duck for the nearest cover which you prob should have been in anyway.

Yes, and often if not, if you see it you're likely already being shot at

I don't have anything against Sniper and other scope types in the game, i died to them as much as any other weapon because people who used them often had an upper hand over me

I see the proposed mechanic to be a deterrent to bushcamping and long range camping, if people are close enough that little difference of a glint won't make much impact in a firefight

[BlackWolf9988]

yeah forget about that, the main game designer plays snipers 90% of the time in his streams.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by BAYOU GILF HUNTER:

yeah forget about that, the main game designer plays snipers 90% of the time in his streams.

What if we try letting him know that that is cringe and he should stop?

[Eldritch Panda]

Scopes just need to be removed.

Originally posted by BAYOU GILF HUNTER:

yeah forget about that, the main game designer plays snipers 90% of the time in his streams.

No wonder we still have self res, developers need to flex their ego if true.

[berto]

I hope.

They promised custom lobbys on 2018.. another lie from them.
That would guarantee servers without scope and meta shtupid weapons (avto, nitro, dolch, xplosive crossbow, etc).