self revive for everyone

[post]

alright, hear me out. since y'all fanboys be crying that self-revives are good to have and bash people who don't agree, I have a better proposal that seems fair.

How about having self-revive for everyone and see where that leads?

[Unknown]

Because the disadvantages of solo self res are the only reason it even works? Like as a solo, you can't coordinate with a team member to distract them during your self res. You can't have someone varify if it's clear. You can't wait for someone to eliminate the threat. You can't have someone disable the traps on your body. You can't revive after all your bars are gone if you have the bounty, etc

[post]

I mean if your team coordination is good, props to you. that's the difference between running solo and running with team8s. when you run with a team you also have to care for your teams needs and account for the people around you. when you're solo, you have no one to worry about.

numbers matter and always did. think of the russians in ww2

[Unknown]

Originally posted by post:

I mean if your team coordination is good, props to you. that's the difference between running solo and running with team8s. when you run with a team you also have to care for your teams needs and account for the people around you. when you're solo, you have no one to worry about.

Sure. Even with this self-revive, it's still a disadvantage to be a solo by quite a bit, and that's fine. I'm just saying that's the only reason self revive as a solo works though. On a team it would be a little too OP imho.

[Briosh]

Yes totally logical and not missing the point of solo revive. While we're at it add double damage and health to solo players as well. See where that leads

[post]

Originally posted by Briosh:

Yes totally logical and not missing the point of solo revive. While we're at it add double damage and health to solo players as well. See where that leads

the point of the self revive was to give solo players a second chance, but that has created other issues such as stalling/annoying gameplay. so keep it simple, everyone has it, everyone's happy

UNLESS, solo players would again be unhappy. Why is that?
Because they want to win without putting much brain into it. if you walk into a bar and start a fight with a group, you're not going to win like in those hollywood movies you watch.
you have to fight smart and that's where the challenge is for playing as a solo. you die? account for the things you did wrong this time.

[Briosh]

I don't see self revive as a problem. But it could be limited to 1 revive. Other than that the disadvantages of a solo player way outweight the advatnage of the revive. I rarely got killed by a self revived player. Burn them or trap them and leavethem

[post]

Originally posted by Briosh:

I don't see self revive as a problem. But it could be limited to 1 revive. Other than that the disadvantages of a solo player way outweight the advatnage of the revive. I rarely got killed by a self revived player. Burn them or trap them and leavethem

I bet you like being stabbed in the back. wink wink

[Briosh]

Originally posted by post:

Originally posted by Briosh:

I don't see self revive as a problem. But it could be limited to 1 revive. Other than that the disadvantages of a solo player way outweight the advatnage of the revive. I rarely got killed by a self revived player. Burn them or trap them and leavethem

I bet you like being stabbed in the back. wink wink

I don't remember the last time a revived player killed me and neither have I alot of success. I used it to save a good hunter. Most of the time it ends getting you multiple deaths for no reason

[Matsumoto XIII]

Originally posted by Unknown:

Because the disadvantages of solo self res are the only reason it even works? Like as a solo, you can't coordinate with a team member to distract them during your self res. You can't have someone varify if it's clear. You can't wait for someone to eliminate the threat. You can't have someone disable the traps on your body. You can't revive after all your bars are gone if you have the bounty, etc

Go play with randoms who have around 0,5 K/D and come back and talk again XD
And btw, how coordinate vs solo bush camper with sniper on 150+ meters or with silencer? :D
Ur just another solo res camper 5* in 3* game or you play just with DC teammates ...

[Matsumoto XIII]

btw there is problem, bcs you can have 2-player teams and solos in 3-player ques. So we fight, kill 3 enemies, where we think they are full 3 team, but 1 of them was solo, who ress after 5 mins of the fight and ofc safe max lvl hunter??? And this sh*t still someone defend???

[AYSplayer]

People: I want self revive
meanwhile Necromancer: i'm waiting to be picked as a perk.

[RandomTurtle]

I would be down for that if I could, as a solo, revive downed solos/duos which automatically recruits them to my team if they're still in the game.

[Unknown]

Originally posted by Matsumoto XIII:

Go play with randoms who have around 0,5 K/D and come back and talk again XD

I'm curious what perspective you would expect me to get from this? If you have bad teammates, it's going to suck whether solo's have self res or not

Originally posted by Matsumoto XIII:

And btw, how coordinate vs solo bush camper with sniper on 150+ meters or with silencer? :D

Bush camping, shooting 150+ meters has no advantage over a duo doing the same thing. Anyone could get a res off in that time, I don't see how this is unique to solo

Originally posted by Matsumoto XIII:

Ur just another solo res camper 5* in 3* game or you play just with DC teammates ...

I genuinely don't solo camp, I just don't have the patience for it. I have more than enough hunt dollars for a new hunter/loadout, and all 32 of my slots are filled with hunters loaded out. I really have no reason to be so cautious.

[Antpile]

I feel like some of you are moving way too slowly if this is a problem. Like, you are in a gunfight with 4 people? Why are you still there? GTFO and flank or something. Don't stay in the middle of the cluster sandwich. That's just... not smart.

I kill a solo, I toss a firebomb on them and watch them for 10 or 15 seconds. If they haven't stood up yet, I just book it, heading for the next clue or the boss or whatever. If that guy stands up after I'm long gone... So what?

He's not going to catch up to me because I don't tend to move slow. He's gotta stand up, get out of the fire, put the fire out, then heal up before he can even begin to worry about me. I'm going to be like 2 minutes ahead of him if he stands up the moment I leave.

More than likely He's probably just going to go extract anyway, because he's down more than one chunk after a kill and time burning. Even a Winnie will 1 tap to the chest at that point. Not much reason to try and fight uphill into duos or whatever when you are a 1 tap for anything.

I feel like the people who struggle with this must spend a lot of time crouched. Crouching is for sneaking past some crows, and that is about it. If you are doing a lot of moving around while crouching, you are probably not very good. When was the last time you watched someone really good on a stream or youtube video spend much time at all moving around crouched?

[Antpile]

I feel like some of you are moving way too slowly if this is a problem. Like, you are in a gunfight with 4 people? Why are you still there? GTFO and flank or something. Don't stay in the middle of the cluster sandwich. That's just... not smart.

I kill a solo, I toss a firebomb on them and watch them for 10 or 15 seconds. If they haven't stood up yet, I just book it, heading for the next clue or the boss or whatever. If that guy stands up after I'm long gone... So what?

He's not going to catch up to me because I don't tend to move slow. He's gotta stand up, get out of the fire, put the fire out, then heal up before he can even begin to worry about me. I'm going to be like 2 minutes ahead of him if he stands up the moment I leave.

More than likely He's probably just going to go extract anyway, because he's down more than one chunk after a kill and time burning. Even a Winnie will 1 tap to the chest at that point. Not much reason to try and fight uphill into duos or whatever when you are a 1 tap for anything.

I feel like the people who struggle with this must spend a lot of time crouched. Crouching is for sneaking past some crows, and that is about it. If you are doing a lot of moving around while crouching, you are probably not very good. When was the last time you watched someone really good on a stream or youtube video spend much time at all moving around crouched?