Headshots are the dumbest thing in the whole game

[123]

Headshots actually make the game experience worse than it would be without such a mechanic.

Headshots are essentially random in 90% cases - be it a guy who shoot you 0.1sec after he spotted you and got a lucky headshot with a hipfire or a guy who simply spammed few bullets in your direction from 80m+ and got it.

The point is - YOU CAN'T DO IT INTENTIONALLY so why to reward players for accidentally getting this?

1. ALL hipfire headshots are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
2. Winfield headshots at high distances are not actually "aimed" because you can't predict where your enemy will be with this type of muzzle velocity so whenever you get a headshot - it is a matter of what happened AFTER you shoot which is outside of your control. You can only get lucky if the enemy moved in the direction where your bulled travelled AFTER you unleashed it.
3. Any headshot from a pistol at 20m+ is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. If you are aiming at the center of mass - you see your target but if you try to get a headshot then you DON'T SEE THE TARGET as it is overlapped with your weapon skin (unless you are a cheater). You don't even see these tiny two pixels of his "head" you are aiming at such a distance
4. Wallbang headshots? Can it be aimed really?
5. Cheaters benefit from headshots the most. Normal players don't.

Well, I'm not saying that getting a headshot is somewhat impossible but doing this intentionally is 10% of the cases. Like if you know where your enemy is going to peek from or catching someone trying to crouch - yes you can aim at his head and get a juicy headshot. But in 90% cases I am getting headshotted it makes me doubt that it was done in a fair way... like a guy who got headshot from 100M with silencer Vetterli obviously just got lucky, nothing to do with the aim.

Headshots in their current state only motivate people to "spam and hope" instead of actually taking aim carefully to get a hit in a controllable way.

I would reduce the extra damage a headshot can do to 130% of the base weapon dmg. Is it better than a normal hit? - Yes it is, but not to a degree where it actually turns any weapon in a one-tap cheat machine.

And remove "get a headshot on a hunter ..." missions from the list. What if I don't play headshots because I want a gaming experience that I can control? Like you can get pretty solid kills with nitro, bows, crossbows, shotguns, melee - without this stupid randomness that can't be controlled in any way other than "spam somewhere in enemys direction and hope".

[Breakdowns]

Originally posted by 123:

Headshots are essentially random in 90% cases - be it a guy who shoot you 0.1sec after he spotted you and got a lucky headshot with a hipfire or a guy who simply spammed few bullets in your direction from 80m+ and got it.

It sounds like people are getting the drop on you and you're panicking when you engage. Try to be more deliberate, be aware of the noise you're making and take circuitous routes, and take your time to aim when you do get into a fight. You shouldn't be hip firing with anything other than a shotgun, you should be careful to aim for the head.

[Valyus]

Bro, I feel you. I feel other player can headshot a small little pixel within a half a second of seeing me versus me where I have to steady the sway and hope that I aim far enough ahead for the velocity. I primarily go for body shots but I'm constantly getting domed. It's not like I don't immediately retreat when I shoot, I typically take my shot and hop to get away but for some reason they can perfectly hit me while jumping. I'm not sure if it's just desync or lag.

But yeah, headshots on me are SO prevalent yet when I think I tag someone in the head it registers as weird neck shot. I feel the game is like, "headshots for thee, and not for me" a good portion of the time. I simply don't know how people handle the sway so easily as that's the one thing that really screws me over along with hit flinch (which somehow doesn't affect my opponents at all like 95% of the time when fired at nearly the same time).

[Akein]

Originally posted by Valyus:

to steady the sway

No, you have to flick shot, you don't want to aim endlessly and fight sway in this game, you have to make a quick flick shot without thinking about it, trust me.

For whatever reason OP thinks he has to "aim carefully to get a hit in a controllable way" which is silly and fundamentally false (in gaming).

[Valyus]

Originally posted by Akein:

Originally posted by Valyus:

to steady the sway

No, you have to flick shot, you don't want to aim endlessly and fight sway in this game, you have to make a quick flick shot without thinking about it, trust me.

I'll give it a try but it seems that the iron sights are very, very slightly right of the middle of the reticle (at least when I try to flick shot ADS on grunts/hives). I'll give it a go though and try to get used to it.

But I do have to say that other people seem to have mastered sway, dunno how they do it. Something I constantly fight with getting used to. Perhaps I just need to mess with sensitivity.

[Joe Pro]

What a bunch of nonsense. "2. Winfield headshots at high distances are not actually "aimed" because you can't predict where your enemy will be with this type of muzzle velocity" and "3. Any headshot from a pistol at 20m+ is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥." What a Fn joke, lmfao. Just say you need to get better.

[telamiina]

Head shots are just fine. Problem is that other damage models are to arcade.
Got shot to leg/hand/gut/chest? No problem just bandage and CS/GO!

[Akein]

Originally posted by Valyus:

Originally posted by Akein:

No, you have to flick shot, you don't want to aim endlessly and fight sway in this game, you have to make a quick flick shot without thinking about it, trust me.

I'll give it a try but it seems that the iron sights are very, very slightly right of the middle of the reticle (at least when I try to flick shot ADS on grunts/hives). I'll give it a go though and try to get used to it.

But I do have to say that other people seem to have mastered sway, dunno how they do it. Something I constantly fight with getting used to. Perhaps I just need to mess with sensitivity.

The iron sight is not always in a perfect center, sometimes it's 2-3 pixels to the left or right, you can get Reshade and put an overlay with a center dot, it helps a little, mostly for preaiming, and reshade is legal to use in Hunt.

About sensitivity, yes, you should definitely try some settings, but for an example, Rachta plays with a crazy high sensitivity and he's doing just fine.

It's more about setting it to use the same amount of mouse movement for ads and non-ads aiming, try this to get the idea of it: https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/forums/topic/6396-instructions/

I play on 800 DPI (lower DPI is not that accurate in tracking) with those settings, it's calculated in the way that the same amount of movement of the mouse is the same amount of pixels movement on the screen, on every scope, other settings are gunslinger, both states of view in game settings are set to default, 100fov
<Attr name="MouseSensitivity" value="0.537561"/>
<Attr name="HipMouseSensitivity" value="0.59729"/>
<Attr name="IronSightsMouseSensitivity" value="0.419944"/>
<Attr name="PeepholeMouseSensitivity" value="0.400235"/>
<Attr name="MediumScopeMouseSensitivity" value="0.295227"/>
<Attr name="LongScopeMouseSensitivity" value="0.151298"/>

[Örlögin]

Keep in mind this game is rampant with cheaters and rampant with people playing cross region. Neither of these facts favor a player with good connection who isn't cheating. Obviously.

It's one of the downfalls of this game. Play in your prime time or don't bother playing at all, because as I said, it's rampant with cheaters from Asia primarily, and people who benefit from lag by playing cross region.

I've wished for a long time that Crytek would ping lock the game but they haven't. At least not adequately. And easy anti cheat is just straight garbage.

[Dopamine.Terrorist]

this is the biggest skill-diff thread I have ever seen

[Haruspex]

Servers are ♥♥♥♥. Your head gets left just a bit(More apparent with higher ping) and that makes your head hit boxer larger than it actually is when you're strafing. So combine that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ server with wonky velocity in this game and you get random ass head shots

[CynicDragon]

headshots are totally normal bro, there are in ALOT of games, maybe all games? think about what level of cover you have, or what level of camo, are you standing out in the open when they headshot you?, are you wearing a white shirt? how many seconds have you been standing there after dodging a shot from the enemy?, how many times have you shot from the same position? factors/variables, suggest trying silences guns/weapons, they are more forgiving

[Anatolius]

I would be fine to play without headshots, but those arm hitboxes would needs to leave as well, i kid you not 50% of bodyshots i send turn out arm hits...
Also people would start malding about shotguns like there's no tomorrow

[daramqp]

Actually weapon sway practically "not exist", while you moving cursor, (sights) it only starts swaying when you partitialy idle, or moving sights on target very slow egz trying to aim to someones head to long, moving sights directly to point and shot in same 0,5-1,0 sec, you wont feel any weapon sway. But for that you need a llitle more sklil, brain muscle. Dont need to think how to aim, you definetly miss most of the time. Best shots come to me when it happens insticfully, Still on practise on that. No need to much concentrate, and load your brains on aiming process, jus move sights and shot, dont concentrate on sights to much, concentrate, focus more attention on moving target, and with time you hand ll start just do it automaticaly.
Its same as for new startings car drivers, when they give to much attention to cars pedals, with time feet just step on them automaticaly with out aiming on them, no need to aim with leg to hit pedals, just concentrate on road.

[369]

Best thing in the game, stop crying 3*

[TheKingOfThings]

When I aim at the head, I shoot the head. Seems pretty intentional to me. Yes RNG headshots do happen but i'm sorry to tell you that people are doing "intentional" headshots.