I think Dum Dum is too much on the Drilling

[Badass_Ben]

In of itself, its a very powerful weapon

Semi-Auto 2-shot rifle + Solid Shotgun all in one is great

Nearly unmatched 2-shot potential and the ability to also clear compounds is very effective


The issue is when you throw in bleed + its high damage, especially as solo, its basically an automatic death sentence to be hit even once.

A solo has ZERO counterplay if hit by a bleeding drilling even once

You get hit by a dum dum drilling, you either bleed out or heal, no ifs-ands-or-buts
If you heal, you are getting rushed by a player who, without even having to bother to reload has a second rifle shot AND a shotgun tap so EVEN if you finish the heal and get to full health- boom, dead anyways

[Der Guteste TTV]

it's pretty meh, absolute horrendous velocity for a rifle and zero penetration. Bleeding pressure is basically non-existent when damage dropoff hits (can't get pushed past that and bleed isn't enough to counteract the low base dmg) and within 15m are slug underbarrel territory. vitality shot and it's whatever anyway, there is enough time to do that. dumdum isn't played much at the higher ranks for a reason. Only on nitro is, but solely because it increases the oneshot range.

[Necromancer]

skill issue

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by 600m/s enjoyer:

it's pretty meh, absolute horrendous velocity for a rifle and zero penetration. Bleeding pressure is basically non-existent when damage dropoff hits (can't get pushed past that and bleed isn't enough to counteract the low base dmg) and within 15m are slug underbarrel territory. vitality shot and it's whatever anyway, there is enough time to do that. dumdum isn't played much at the higher ranks for a reason. Only on nitro is, but solely because it increases the oneshot range.

Bruh, i play 5 and 6 star

The fact that you think the rifle is "meh" indicates either you are a purely long-ammo only user, or you actually have no idea what you are talking about

THE BEST 2 shot potential in game is not "meh"

[Der Guteste TTV]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Originally posted by 600m/s enjoyer:

it's pretty meh, absolute horrendous velocity for a rifle and zero penetration. Bleeding pressure is basically non-existent when damage dropoff hits (can't get pushed past that and bleed isn't enough to counteract the low base dmg) and within 15m are slug underbarrel territory. vitality shot and it's whatever anyway, there is enough time to do that. dumdum isn't played much at the higher ranks for a reason. Only on nitro is, but solely because it increases the oneshot range.

Bruh, i play 5 and 6 star

The fact that you think the rifle is "meh" indicates either you are a purely long-ammo only user, or you actually have no idea what you are talking about

THE BEST 2 shot potential in game is not "meh"

fyi drilling is prob my fav weapon atm. I always talked about dumdum when calling it meh, not the gun. honestly Dumdum is simply hot garbage, especially on drilling.
absolutely horrible velocity and zero pen, not worth sacrificing two super important aspects just for bleeding that does nothing most of the time anyway.
if you actually play 5-6 you can easily see that basically no one uses dumdum period.
not because people don't know it's actually good - because it's not. people don't play it cuz it's simply not worth.

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by 600m/s enjoyer:

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Bruh, i play 5 and 6 star

The fact that you think the rifle is "meh" indicates either you are a purely long-ammo only user, or you actually have no idea what you are talking about

THE BEST 2 shot potential in game is not "meh"

fyi drilling is prob my fav weapon atm. I always talked about dumdum when calling it meh, not the gun. honestly Dumdum is simply hot garbage, especially on drilling.
absolutely horrible velocity and zero pen, not worth sacrificing two super important aspects just for bleeding that does nothing most of the time anyway.
if you actually play 5-6 you can easily see that basically no one uses dumdum period.
not because people don't know it's actually good - because it's not. people don't play it cuz it's simply not worth.

??

You realize Dum Dum does not affect velocity, right?

Penetration, yes
But that is far from critical, especially for medium ammo anyways

People use it all the time, especially on New Army, Springfield, etc

[Der Guteste TTV]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Originally posted by 600m/s enjoyer:

fyi drilling is prob my fav weapon atm. I always talked about dumdum when calling it meh, not the gun. honestly Dumdum is simply hot garbage, especially on drilling.
absolutely horrible velocity and zero pen, not worth sacrificing two super important aspects just for bleeding that does nothing most of the time anyway.
if you actually play 5-6 you can easily see that basically no one uses dumdum period.
not because people don't know it's actually good - because it's not. people don't play it cuz it's simply not worth.

??

You realize Dum Dum does not affect velocity, right?

Penetration, yes
But that is far from critical, especially for medium ammo anyways

People use it all the time, especially on New Army, Springfield, etc

...you realize dumdum has a HUGE impact on velocity with the drilling, right? 30% reduction of the base velocity in fact. Maybe check at least in game what things actually affect first before talking about it.
also new army and springfield are pretty rare at 5-6 stars.

[Necromancer]

@Badass_Ben dum dum velocity on drilling is 371 m/s, normal ammo is 530 m/s. so dum dum really is worthless since it only has downsides.

[Heartless]

yeah. Drilling dum dum needs the same velocity as normal.

[bacon]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

You realize Dum Dum does not affect velocity, right?

yikes

[Necromancer]

Originally posted by Heartless:

yeah. Drilling dum dum needs the same velocity as normal.

true

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by 600m/s enjoyer:

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Bruh, i play 5 and 6 star

The fact that you think the rifle is "meh" indicates either you are a purely long-ammo only user, or you actually have no idea what you are talking about

THE BEST 2 shot potential in game is not "meh"

fyi drilling is prob my fav weapon atm. I always talked about dumdum when calling it meh, not the gun. honestly Dumdum is simply hot garbage, especially on drilling.
absolutely horrible velocity and zero pen, not worth sacrificing two super important aspects just for bleeding that does nothing most of the time anyway.
if you actually play 5-6 you can easily see that basically no one uses dumdum period.
not because people don't know it's actually good - because it's not. people don't play it cuz it's simply not worth.

I find dumdum ammo to be good on the Springfield since you can have dumdum in one slot and regular in the other, maintaining the ability to pen. The velocity decrease on the Drilling is enormous, though, never bring it.

[prototype81]

honestly I dont even see the point in using it on drilling. I see many people use it, and ive pryed them from their dead hunter hands. It 2 shots so fast and kills that bleed isnt worth the loss of velocity, recoil, and inability to shoot through the thinnest of planks.

I almost always run with rifles/ammo that can penetrate cover.

But bleed can be "fun".

[Der Guteste TTV]

Originally posted by Heartless:

yeah. Drilling dum dum needs the same velocity as normal.

+1
I would actually consider bringing dumdum on drilling occassionally if that were to be the case.

[Jare]

Dont trust the gun stats too much, some parts are misleading, bugged or not intended. You should always test it out on the shooting range just to make sure.

[justfaded]

Originally posted by Jare:

Dont trust the gun stats too much, some parts are misleading, bugged or not intended. You should always test it out on the shooting range just to make sure.

How do you test muzzle velocity in the shooting range?